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Comment on Energy Crisis: Immediate Attention Needed! by Najeeb

Najeeb — Wed, 22 May 2013 02:54:09 +0000

there was a time not long ago in Mush’s days when the Wapda used to hang tough and refuse any project whose per KWH cost to the consumer exceeded 3 US cents… all in…this is one of the reasons there was no major energy generation project in the country during Mush’s years in power…. but they were of course, unreasonable, the big consortiums held their ground too and the result was before us … the PPP civilian government contracted at prices that as i understand it hover around 7 cents per KWH… and introduced the rental floating power-house gimmicks etc…. Shrek & Co have to do better… but they wont be able to avoid hiking the per KWH price of electricity…because the costs of all on-going projects have increased and the new ones are incredibly costly… Good luck Shrek.!

Comment on Energy Crisis: Immediate Attention Needed! by Zuha Saeed

Zuha Saeed — Wed, 22 May 2013 02:51:48 +0000

sirs,issue is very simple..we do hv d installed capacity,we do hv d adequate system of producing n monitoring d elec..we do hv bulk of population paying their bills regularly..but wat we do not have is d INTENT of a true leader to provide relief to d common man..d day they feel our pinch d money will flow from BB income support prog,zakat ushr committee,subsidies,sustainable dev fund,PM N PRES pers fund into d big vaccum called d CIRCULAR DEBT..if d problem can not be eradicated from its roots,ican can be reduced to under 50 percent OVER NIGHT..it is just a matter of ONE iron hand n right priorities..

Comment on Energy Crisis: Immediate Attention Needed! by Shameel Siraj Khan

Shameel Siraj Khan — Wed, 22 May 2013 02:51:12 +0000

very true najeeb which is why i mentioned that inextreme poverty it can be justified..the question however is how do you deal with people who can afford not one but plenty of Air Conditions yet complain of heavy bills & hence resort to theft.. the wealthy are very much to blame for using excess yet not paying [mpa's mna's, ministers, governors, the president and might i add the ghq are not strangers to this, they either not pay or simply delay the payment of their bills for years on end]

Comment on Energy Crisis: Immediate Attention Needed! by Najeeb

Najeeb — Wed, 22 May 2013 02:50:36 +0000

if they stop the “kunda”.. a vast number of people wont be able to pay their electric bills due to their poverty… they will be deprived of electricity…the high cost per kilowatt hour, owing to expensive power generation projects etc…. @Zuha Saeed same argument and figures .. 5 US cents per kilowatt hour and a Per Capita income in Pakistan of less than USD 1000.- per anum… makes it too heavy a bill for the common of mortals in Pakistan.. in France KWH cost is average around 12 US cents but per capita income is around 20.000 $… the poor Pakistani citizen is crushed by the energy prices… I wont enter into how and why such expensive power projects were contracted for…

Comment on Energy Crisis: Immediate Attention Needed! by Shameel Siraj Khan

Shameel Siraj Khan — Wed, 22 May 2013 02:49:37 +0000

there’s one factor which is often missed out; that of theft… i can tell you from the KP perspective that there is considerable electricity theft & its across the board, not just the poor [who in some cases can be justified ] ..& believe it or not to some degree the theft is encouraged by the WAPDA staff themselves ! its an issue that has to be addressed before we can move forward

Comment on Energy Crisis: Immediate Attention Needed! by Naveed Tajammal

Naveed Tajammal — Tue, 21 May 2013 18:19:36 +0000

The state should nationalize all ipp’s it is a cartel ,check the list of the private owners,and when was the last time repair and maintenance,was done of the generators,the efficiency of most is down to pittance yet they charge for full capacity.
unless the mafia is not handled no measures can work.

Naveed Tajammal,

Comment on Energy Crisis: Immediate Attention Needed! by Khan Zia

Khan Zia — Tue, 21 May 2013 18:18:56 +0000

Precisely. You have summed it up perfectly. Playing politics with energy has brought upon us the crises we are facing today. It is going to get progressively worse. To avert complete disaster we have to stop procrastinating and dithering. This applies equally to power generation as well as replacement of lost water storage capacity due to silting of the existing reservoirs. Tinkering is not the answer. It is a life-and-death issue. Bold urgent steps are needed if there is to be a future.

Comment on Energy Crisis: Immediate Attention Needed! by Sajjad Muneer

Sajjad Muneer — Tue, 21 May 2013 18:18:12 +0000

Time we stopped messing around:

GO FOR KALABAGH UNAFRAID OFTHE “POLITICAL FALLOUTS”
GO FOR DASU, TARBELA 4.
GO FOR FUEL CONVERSION TO COAL .
ENSURE REVERSION TO 70:30 TRADITIONAL MIX (HYDRO:THERMAL)
PAY THE EXISTING IPP’s IN THE INTERIM – YOU HAVE NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER.
INSTITUTIONAL CHANGES AS SUGGESTED BY MUNNAWAR B AHMED.
LNG IMPORT.
IRAN-PAKISTAN GAS PIPELINE.
GET REAL EXPERTS AT THE HELM>

Sajjad Muneer

Comment on Energy Crisis: Immediate Attention Needed! by a m malik

a m malik — Tue, 21 May 2013 15:09:57 +0000

As a tail end I feel there are some economic- hit man of foreign agencies working in Pakistan where all profit industrial enterprises especially the export oriented have been razed to ground through fires.
am

Comment on Energy Crisis: Immediate Attention Needed! by a m malik

a m malik — Tue, 21 May 2013 15:05:19 +0000

Kalabagh is the primary solution followed by Thar coal even though of low quality. Not the LPG as is being suggested by the same mafia which had planned abinitio to replace the entire CNG tpt with LPG and lPG stns to be owned by AAZ. 99% of buses in Karachi use CNG.
Qatar was extremely keen a decade and a half ago to provide gas from its North dhome reserves – and as usual we kept dragging our feet and instead the corruption got us into the IPPs. The IPPs broke the back of the profit earning WAPDA who had then to foot for the IPPs. That is past. Sindh and KPK are politically and emotionally against KBD. Reason – Sindh in particular does not trust Punjab apprehending that the water will be “stolen”. This is because of the past bitter experience where an out fall made for excess flood waters started being used for regular irrigation by Punjab. Should this be the case then I would suggest that:
a. Let the chairman and who ever matters in water distribution/control be appointed from Sindh on a permanent basis for atleast the next thirty years through a constitutional amendment. This cannot be delayed any further.
b. If the allegation of water being stolen is correct, then it would be in the fitness of things that Punjab must apologize for its indiscreet behavior.
b. I for- see that if making of KBD may cause a dent to the federation – by not making and with further shortfall of water and electricity(we cannot sustain thermals for any further length of time) may also cause even a severer dent to the federation.

Enemy has played its cards well in arousing the emotions Heads I win Tails u lose.