Jury in and out on Osama

By: Anwer Kadri


USA has made a lot of noise on Osama, being not only alive, but cocooned in Pakistan. The not so long ago, visit, by Clinton, to these shores, was on the same lines. The Pakistani public is absolutely fed up with the American government statements, and are widely interpreted as full of sound and fury signifying nothing and are in total negation of the ground realities and nothing to do with the way things really are. Pakistan has suffered tremendously in this War on Terror so what was expected of an ally in our hour of hardship was to try and make an effort to solve the issues being faced by Pakistan. One of the foremost is to stop India from violating the 1960 Indus Water Treaty.

The world has not forgotten,the quiet disappearance of the US after making a deal with the Soviets on their withdrawal from Afghanistan in 1989. The statement of the US on the eve of their elopement from Vietnam said, “The solidarity and integrity of South Vietnam is the corner stone of the American foreign policy.” Still echoes in the ears of people who care to analyze. Someone very rightly said, to be America’s friend is dangerous but to be an ally; FATAL.

I would therefore hardly take Clinton seriously on her comments because she is as clueless now as she was when her Arkansas boy was in the White House. Therefore if she was clueless about her boy and his activities just next door it is hardly conceivable that she would have any concrete information about the CIA trained and planted Saudi Boy placed by them in the mountains   across the oceans thousands of miles away. The US it seems has no longer any diplomat of reasonable integrity with substance in their approach but what we have been seeing in the last two decades are material like Colin Powell  Rice and now  Clinton. Talking about the first two is a sheer waste of time because they were the echo of the voice of their master whose sanity is now being questioned even in his own Country. We shall come back to her somersault on her statement during her visit to India but for now let us examine the reality of Osama bin Laden hiding in Pakistan.

Only if she had done her homework on Osama bin Laden before she came here to talk about him on the television live, it could save her and the US a lot of embarrassment but embarrassment is the one thing which bothers Americans least as it comes daily from Chavez and Ahmedinejad as a three times daily dose. Let us review all that has been said by the West on Osama bin Laden.

1-    The information that Osama Bin Laden is dead, first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan  many years ago,the fugitive died in December [2001] and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival? (New York Times, July 2002).

  1. Bin Laden has often been reported to be in poor health. Some accounts claim that he is suffering from Hepatitis C, and can expect to live for only two more years. According to Le Figaro, in 2000 he ordered a mobile dialysis machine to be delivered to his base at Kandahar in Afghanistan( Guardian)
  2. FBI: Bin Laden ‘probably’ dead; The US Federal Bureau of Investigation’s counter-terrorism chief, Dale Watson, says he thinks Osama bin Laden is “probably” dead. [BBC]. The editor-in-chief of a London-based Arab news magazine said a purported will it published in the year [2001] by Osama bin Laden, and shows “he’s dying or he’s going to die soon.” [CNN]. Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader. “The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Osama alive or dead,” the source said. [Fox News].
  3. The desire to revive Osama is only to justify the continuation of the War on Terrorism. Gordon Duff, Senior Editor Veteran News, USA,  in a recent article states,” Has the United States established exactly what its strategic interests are in the region? Oil is flowing freely as is heroin. Money is flowing into the region by the plane load and back out, into banks in Dubai, Tel Aviv and Switzerland. Is $500 billion a year being spent to defend Israel from invasion by, well, we aren’t sure? What is being spent to secure Israel, or empower Israeli recklessness, is nearly one third of America’s entire budget. Wouldn’t it simply be cheaper to give Israel the United States or do they own it already? “The continual embarrassment of watching Mrs. Clinton on her hunt for the missing Bin Laden, as though she has nothing else to castigate Pakistan for….
  4. The West needs to review its arrogant policies followed in this part of the world. They need to answer some questions: what has been the ratio of suicide attempts since the invasion of Afghanistan?  How sharply have the terrorist attacks risen since then? How many US soldiers have actually been killed on ground as compared to the soldiers, civilians: women, old people and children from other side of the fence? At the end of the day, what political and military victory has USA achieved by attacking and invading Afghanistan? USA is once again contemplating reaching an understanding with the Taliban in Afghanistan. So what were these eight years all about? Gordon Duff was right after all.(Excerpt from Article from Yasmeen Ali: Osama: Dead or Alive?)
  5. Clinton is clueless. Admiral Sirohey told me in an interview that both U.S. and Pakistani intelligence agencies confirmed his death in December of 2001. Sirohey referred to him as a “ghost” that the respective governments like to pull out once in awhile for convenience. Michael Hughes said.

The story is endless but  I do believe that Clinton is clueless about it because her puppet masters are smart people, please do not forget that they duped a four star General Colin Powell into issuing a statement in the UN about Iraq possessing WMDs and going ahead with their nuclear programme. The General however had integrity and he resigned on discovery .

It is strange that a lady in her position gets intoxicated by the exuberance of her own verbosity and she goes  on to threaten Pakistan that the there could be very serious consequences should there be another incident like the one at Times Square. My dear lady this warning should be referred to your almighty FBI CIA or NYPD who organized a silly childish false flag operation to pressurize Pakistan. In any case let this be clearly understood that Pakistan is not Iraq Afghanistan, Panama or any Banana Republic and if Pakistan were to withdraw its support to the US war effort it will not be long that the Americans and their Allies would be feeling the impossibility of the situation. If anything we have very little to lose ,my fair lady please drive this message home loud and clear because your planted stooges here are just a matter of minutes and not hours. Please try not to come to that otherwise you have another Reza Shah and Marcos marking time.

(The writer is a Consultant in fields of Security and Public Health Hygiene, Female Education and Crisis Management).

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  • Ayesha Khan  On August 28, 2010 at 7:05 am

    A heartwarming stand to a female member of the American govt who has most probably given this info to say by their CIA. US is very chauvinistic and they always have their women do the dirty, stupid work. Now let’s see Pakistan professionals and govt take similar stands with male American govt officials. Or lets just tell them to leave please. Islam with Hikmah as I always say.

    By the way, just as Bhutto is alive, so is Osama. One spoke of democracy as the answer to injustice and the other of aggression as the answer to injustice, the latter approach survives because no one invested in the peoples education so violence it is.

    • pakpotpourri2  On August 28, 2010 at 7:18 am

      Bravo! Well stated Ayesha: By the way, just as Bhutto is alive, so is Osama.

    • anwer sultan kadri  On August 28, 2010 at 7:42 am

      Thank you for your interest Ayesha I think we its about time we should quit our apologetic atitude towards those who tend to throw their weight.Its time they should know that the party is over for them. If the government wont people will i assure you.

    • anwer sultan kadri  On August 28, 2010 at 7:47 am

      Thank you Ayesha for your interest. Its time that we came out of the spell of being apologetic for everything we are surely not up for a coutesry or popularity contest so we must tell the people to their faces what they deserve. If the government has any reservations people dont trust me they will do it. Enough is enough let us tell the west and their baffoons in the East that the party is over

  • Ghayur Ayub  On August 28, 2010 at 7:41 am

    Solid presentation about OBL

  • viqar  On August 28, 2010 at 9:01 am

    Bin Laden is neither a conspiracy nor a reality as often hyped by the Americans. Old Fidel Castro rightly said that Bin Laden is a prepaid agent who pops up when ever the administration wishes to stir fear among the people. I also think that those who recruited and nurtured him are the people who were excessively exposed to the comics of 1950s depicting all things possible for the American and British soldiers in the face of evil German and Japanese as observed by Robert Fisk, himself from the same generation. Surely, there are the people of that generation in very high position in the world and have never come out of that romantic but highly polluted environ of their teens.

  • Asad Durrani  On August 28, 2010 at 9:25 am

    If I ever found out what was a greater waste of time- beating a dead horse, a dead trail or a dead theme- I will let everyone know.

    • anwer sultan kadri  On August 28, 2010 at 10:13 am

      Sir, please do that you would be doing the American one big favour if you can get them to come out of their trance of invincibility

  • Sqn Ldr S. Ausaf Husain (Retd)  On August 28, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    I have really enjoyed the article of Anwer Kadri and I fully agree with the analysis mentioned in the last paragraph of his article about the lady( Clinton). She is just clueless.
    Comments by Ayesha Khan are excellent. She has made the whole thing clear in few sentences.
    Bin Ladden is not a reality. As alraedy very well said by Mr Viqar “Bin Laden is neither a conspiracy nor a reality as often hyped by the Americans”.

  • Sqn Ldr S. Ausaf Husain (Retd)  On August 28, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Osama Bin Ladden is not a reality. His name is used by Americans just continue war on terror in Pakistan,

  • Faisal Malik  On August 28, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    keeping on beating the fading line. though the americans realize that now bin laden is becoming a ghost in the eyes of the public as well. so they need others to do the same job for them that the name of bin laden did.

    enter ttp or jesh, or lashkar-e-taiba etc.

    and their more (planted guys) like faisal shahzad etc.

    keep the american public at their toes………….so that they keep on funding the “war?? on “terror”?? by the terrorists.

  • Arif Khan  On August 28, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Let me give you a VERY SINCERE advice, as long as you directly or indirectly Support the Talibans or Alquida leadership Consiously or unconsciously YOU WILL NEVER SWEE THE END OF SUICIDE ATTACKS AND LAWLESSNESS IN PAKISTAN ,NO WAY JOSE!!! All i hear from MOST Muslims here and in all Muslim countries, that how bad America is, and how great, Saddam Hussian was,(Completely forgetting his CRUEL deeds towards fellowIraqis, let alone, Iranians , or Kurds, Shias, or Marsh Arabs) or Osama bin Laden by blaming Jews and America itself for attacking itself in New York…Iam not tyhe one suffering from all these attacks here in Los Angeles California but poor Pakistanis who have lost over 30,000 lives from Suicide attacks.. I can assure you that even if the Americans leave tomorrow these attacks will continue as they are Hell bent on establishing a “Khalafat” in Pakistan..No civilised Nation would put up with this Non Sense except Pakistan…Saddam Hussain would have killed atleast a Million Talibans by now including Women and Children ..

  • Faisal Malik  On August 28, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    its a fact that america is involved in terrorist activities inside pakistan, and the latest wikilieaks release proves it.

    not just conspiracy theory.

    the nation that gets bombed on the day of its independence by its “ally”??

    drone attacks on a regular basis where the civilian death toll is much more than the actual targets, as accepted by the US administration as well.
    is it terrorism or not??

    let me send a drone to attack anywhere in the US, just to kill faisal shahzad. and lets see what response we get from our ally. after all, he is a terrorist and trained in pakistan, right??

    • Arif Khan  On August 29, 2010 at 4:18 am

      Faisal Malik Sahib..If you continue with indirectly Supporting the action of the Talibans within Pakistan and killing of 30,000 innocent Pakistanis by Taliban suicide attacks in Major cities what can I tellyou? If they are mad at the Americans why dont they have the balls to attack them who are responsible for the Drone attacks, why kill INNOCENT Pakistani civilians???? Because deep down they are COWARDS and SNEAKY!! and dont want the Apaches to shove a Hell fire Missiles up their behind..What can Poor Pakistani civilian Women and Children do?? SOFT TARGETS

  • Faisal Malik  On August 28, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    before the arrival of the dirty filthy boots of the US in our neighbors to the left, the area was peaceful, hardly seeing any suicide bombing or any attack like lahore police training center, or on GHQ itself.

    it was only after the filth started flowing from the left to within pakistan in the form of xe-inc. or the RAW trained Afgan (mostly Uzbeks belonging to northern alliance), all with the approval of Amrullah Saleh, all within the knowledge of the so called allies, that we see the rise of suicide attacks or the ones of the like on GHQ.

    if they get the hell out of here, then we WILL see peace and stability return to norm as well. it may take time to wipe the remnants of the mosquitoes, but eventually, it will end.

    • Arif Khan  On August 29, 2010 at 4:25 am

      Mr Malik we have to kill anyone who attacks us Talibans or their Sympathisers..Who told them to give Osama bin Laden PROTECTION?? If you Protect Aid or Abet an International Murderer , you will be as guilty as him and instead of WHINING take the attacks like a MAN, and face the music, but not on the innocent public, fight the Pak Army and the Nato forces, then I can RESPECT you, Right now i i dont want to say what the world thinks of you??????

  • anwer sultan kadri  On August 28, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    Thank you Mr. Arif for your opinion, you seem as unaware of history as the american people….do you have any idea whose discovery was Osama bin Laden,…..how did he end up in Afghanistan……the formation and the command structure of Al Quaeda…….the creation of the Taliban……for your information Afghan Taliban has not once fought Pakistan…..but it is the tribals cultivated by the cocktail of CIA/Mossad/Raw and the socialist backed Afghan intelligence you tend to call Taliban. Well yes Mr. Arif it is unfortunate that we have people in this part of the world who can be bought for a few dollars just as there are muslims around the world and US who can harp the tune of their masters. I think its time for the US and its Allies to look for a way out of their trigger happy adventure, as for Pakistan we know what is best for us and we can look after ourselves so your advice should be aimed at Washington not Islamabad. As a Pakistani i would refrain from commenting on the atrocites of Saddam Hussain but Pentagon could update you with all the figures of civilian men women and children killed by the US atrocities in Iraq and Afghanistan they surpass the figure killed by Saddam Hussains atrocities. It is essential to do your homework before commenting on a public forum. Thank you again for your valued comments

    • anwer sultan kadri  On August 28, 2010 at 6:35 pm

      Well done Faisel Malik…..keep up the good work……congratulations.

      • Faisal Malik  On August 28, 2010 at 6:49 pm

        thanks for the compliment mr. qadri.

        i will. insha’Allah.

    • Arif Khan  On August 29, 2010 at 4:47 am

      Dear Mr Qadri…I have always been deadly against the US forces attacking Iraq.. it was a MISTAKE, and they completely bungled up Iraq… I think the US gave plenty of opportunities to the Talibans to hand over Osama who masterminded the attacks on NYC.. They had 6 months to respond but they thought the US was “Playing around” then they found out the hard way that they were’nt…. Now when you Play you pay… Americans are not PASSIVE people and will respond if they are attacked, Pakistan is not Strict enough with these Talibans and let them get away with too much..The World is not so forgiving, look at India they are still harping about the “Mumbai” attack 1.5yrs later…WE have lost 30,000 Civilians killed by these COWARDS and we havent even brought one person to justice…so they get encouraged and continue their Nafarious attacks on our civilians, as there is no accountability…So you Sympathise with them and HAVE fun, as these attacks, will never end. It is too late to Capitulate to the Talibans,it has to be a fight to the finish or Perish…As these people have no respect for their lives and have these 72 Houries embedded in their Psyche.. they have nothing to look forward to except the NEXT LIFE…I can tell you without BLINKING that if there is another Terrorist attack on US soil ever again , All Hell will break loose and I fear for Pakistan and the Tribal belt as i love my Country but I will NEVER support a bunch of THUGS who have kept Pakistan as a Hostage…

      • pakpotpourri2  On August 30, 2010 at 3:37 am

        Not supporting America in her expansionist designs does NOT mean one supports Taliban.They are two different things.
        Two, USA is on record to admitting(a few years ago)that OBL is dead. However they will keep OBL alive to justify their presence in the region & serve their interests.
        That does not mean, one supports Taliban. Not by a long shot.
        I am glad you admit the attack on Iraq was incorrect.In my estimation,so was the attack on Afghanistan.
        It has not been proved beyond reasonable doubt that it was Taliban who attempted 9/11.
        They neither have the capability nor resources o undertake an adventure of such proportions.
        Arif, the world has become a global village owing to media, you can fool some people some of the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

  • Nasim Hassan  On August 29, 2010 at 2:50 am

    Whether Osama is dead or alive, we can be sure of one thing about the USA. The US is certainly going to get out of Afghanistan in next five years. The US economy and NATO countries cannot afford it.

    Europe has been rethinking about it and sided with US to keep a foothold in central asia to keep a check on China and Iran. They wanted India to commit their forces but India is too smart. India certainly made strategic investment in the Northern alliance group so that Pakistan continue to bleed from blow back.

    However India does not know Afghanistan or Afghan people. Over thousand years they have devloped survival methods. They may be illietrate but they are certainly not stupid.

    Let us keep on watching the great game. — Nasim Hassan

  • Arif Khan  On August 29, 2010 at 5:19 am

    Mr Malik, If I was in your shoes i would be more concerned about the FLOODS and the 20 Million dying and Homeless Pakistanis, than worry about your Sympathies for the Talibans, who are stabbing you in the back as your peope are DYING… It was the USA which immediatelt responded with Helicopters and Boats, Bridges and help NOT our Muslim so called brethern??? Iran still hasnt given us a DIME.. The USA Shamed China, Japan, and the European Union to move their BUTTS to help Pakistan, who did nothing for 3 long weeks and are now slowly coming around… Talk to me about the Talibans, and other issues 3 yrs from now after this situation is under control and Thank the USA for being a friend in need instead of being a thankless person, ask the 10,000 people the US marines have saved and fed in the Swat Valley and Sind so far and continuing…I cant believe that without US support Pakistan would declare Chapter 11 Bankruptcy and the Rs would be not 85 =$1 but 2000=1$ think about it? You have absolutely NO TIME to talk about anything else except trying to survive this immediate disaster…So Pl;ease DROP all other USELESS topics and Concentrate on only ,”How to get World support to survive these horrible Floods” and pass my message to all the anti Amercan gents on this site Thanks!!!!

  • anwer sultan kadri  On August 29, 2010 at 11:04 am

    Well Mr. Arif Khan,………Your concern for Pakistan and the people of Pakistan is commendable, however whether India cries about Mumbai or anything else its like a mother in law ranting because she has been relegated to a second position, I am really surprised that ISI or Pakistan has not yet been blamed for more than 150 districts out of 650 which are under Moaist control. The US has never done a thing for the love of Jesus so if the US is doing anything it is with deeper motives in their minds why not take an advantage. I think you need to read more what is published in the Western Media not just rag tag WSJ so for a starter begin from here, this is what your Almighty senators and congressmen had to say, quote, “The U.S. government was well aware of the Taliban’s reactionary program, yet it chose to back their rise to power in the mid-1990s. The creation of the Taliban was “actively encouraged by the ISI and the CIA,” according to Selig Harrison, an expert on U.S. relations with Asia. “The United States encouraged Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to support the Taliban, certainly right up to their advance on Kabul,” adds respected journalist Ahmed Rashid. When the Taliban took power, State Department spokesperson Glyn Davies said that he saw “nothing objectionable” in the Taliban’s plans to impose strict Islamic law, and Senator Hank Brown, chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on the Near East and South Asia, welcomed the new regime: “The good part of what has happened is that one of the factions at last seems capable of developing a new government in Afghanistan.” “The Taliban will probably develop like the Saudis. There will be Aramco [the consortium of oil companies that controlled Saudi oil], pipelines, an emir, no parliament and lots of Sharia law. We can live with that,” said another U.S. diplomat in 1997.”( unquote)

    ” Since September 11, CIA officials have been claiming they had no direct link to bin Laden. These denials lack credibility. Earlier this year, the trial of defendants accused of the 1998 U.S. embassy bombing in Kenya disclosed that the CIA shipped high-powered sniper rifles directly to bin Laden’s operation in 1989. Even the Tennessee-based manufacturer of the rifles confirmed this. According to the Boston Globe, some military analysts and specialists on the weapons trade say the CIA has spent years covering its tracks on its early ties to the Afghan forces…. Despite the ClA’s denials, these experts say it was inevitable that the military training in guerrilla tactics and the vast reservoir of money and arms that the CIA provided in Afghanistan would have ended up helping bin Laden and his forces during the 1980s.”

    Write again and I shall update you further. Thank you for taking your time to comment on the forum.

  • Arif Khan  On August 29, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    Daer Qadri Sahib,The whole world looks out for its Vital national interests, including Pakistan …Pakistan is helping USA because of the Billions in Military and economic Aid it has received since 9/11. and since your Squadron Leader Buddy doesnt know, Let me update his knowledge of his own Air Force..USA has given Pakistan during Musharraf’s time the Following 1) 12 C130’s when Pakistan had only 2 left and the rest had been Cannablized.2) Our T37’s were too old and had either Crashed or were Junked and so our Risalpur Academy was without Trainers …Bush pulled out of “Mothballs ” The Advanced versions of the T37 Dragonfly REBURBISHED them and haded 22 of them to Pakistan Free of cost.3) 18 F16’s block 52 are coming into Pakistan paid for by the “Coalition Support fund” and the the 28 F16’s which were previously BLOCKED by Pressler were released to Pakistan making a total inventory at hand to 42(These will all be MLUed to Block40 levels by the American by 2012(also paid by the US congress). INCIDENTLY THESE Block 52 F16’s are NOT meant for the Talibans they are desinged to block any attack from IAF..Before 9/11 we had only 15F16’s blk15 of the original 40 given to us by Reagan the rest had either crashed or had been cannabalized for spare parts due to Pressler restrictions..Why should the Americans help us for No ryme or reasom? We have nothing in Common with them or their Culture or Religion. Our Own Muslim brothers who we SUPPORT so much dont want anything to do with us, i see the treatment of Pakistanis in Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other Gulf States…it is worse than any animal is treated…. NOW BACK TO THE FLOODS ..I contributed a $1000 to Edhi foundation on 16th of August, and have encouraged my American friends to do the Same, CNN and FOX news have been a great help in collecting over 98 Million dollars which have already been sent to Pakistani NGO’s, The US Aid had Surpassed 210 Million, and counting… The Super Stallion Helicopters and “Chinooks” the same oneswhich helped the Earthquake victims in Azad Kashmir are working around the Clock operating from THe Carrier USS Abraham Lincoln docked in Karachi and is their Home base….Will further update situation later….

  • Arif Khan  On August 29, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Also Mr Qadri I forgot to mention , the 22 Brandnew Helicopter called the Bell 412EP were also given during Musharraf’s time by Bush to replace the antiquated French Aluettes we have had since “Donkey’s years” and were crashing due to old age .These Helicopetrs flown by Pakistan has saved the lives of COUNTLESS people during these Floods.. US Marines are using many Black Hawks as well as Super Stallions and Chinooks “Semper Fi” (always faithful) Long live the “Jar heads” and the Pakistan Army and Airforce….I wsh I could send you the Wonderful photos showing all 3 working hand in hand with great precision and efficiency saving lives and supplying food and Halal M.R.E’s (Meals ready to eat) in Packets prepared by a Turkish food company by the Mass quantities

  • Arif Khan  On August 29, 2010 at 5:50 pm


    Subject: Shocking

    Yesterday the giant Nasdaq screen in Times Square was offered to Pakistan from 5 6 p.m., a peak traffic time, to project a message to collect donations for flood relief. This is the first time any country has been offered this facility. Even Haiti was not given this favour after their earthquake.
    The giant Times Square Nasdaq screen is one of the most high profile, highly visible and expensive advertising mediums known.
    NASDAQ estimated that Pakistan could collected at least a million US Dollars by using this unique advertising facility.
    And now the shocking part. The embassy sent images of Benazir and the consul general in New York which were flashed on the giant screen with no message about the floods. Puzzled people watched this giant image of this brown guy in a suit and wondered what he was doing on the screen.
    And a golden opportunity to collect valuable donations and to project the plight of the flood victims was sacrificed at the alter of some embassy minion’s sycophancy. And in the bargain our dignity and respect.
    The tragedy is that all relevant flood images were available with the embassy in New York as our foreign Minister had just recently made a presentation of the same there.
    NASDAQ withdrew this privilege shortly after, saying they were fools to let Pakistan have this opportunity.
    Someone should investigate this shocking event and heads should roll.

    Unfortunately no ones head will roll in this country ruled by the corrupt and incompetent lot.

  • Faisal Malik  On August 29, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    there’s a huge difference between the taliban and the terrorists claiming to be talibans.

    the real talibans are never in favor of attacks within pakistan.

    the other ones are just the hired hands of the US/NATO. nothing more nothing less.

    i have no sympathy with the terrorists.

    i will always have sympathy for the ones who appreciate even our moral support.

    i have sympathy for the flood affectees.

    i will never have sympathy with the dogs from our right flank, flooding our waters the very next day we announced our acceptance of their dirty dimes…(personally, i spit on the aid thingy from any of our “allies” or the enemies).

    and i will never have sympathy for the dogs who send their marines to help the flood affectees, yet are nowhere to be seen.

  • anwer sultan kadri  On August 29, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Great, americans cant really get out of the mirth of Fox News and CNN, however it will take quite sometime for the likes of Mr. Arif Khan, to see how easily they have been duped to see things the way they would like to see it, so Faisel, Osama when he fighting for the Americans was a jihadi but when the guns turn around he is a terrorist, Saddam as long as he was fighting the Iranians the mighty Donald Rumsfield branded him as the mujahid of islam( Newsweek 23rd Dec,2003) but when he turned around he became a tyrant and the same Secretary Rumsfield planned his ouster. So lets not worry too much about the likes of Mr. Arif Khan after all he has his loyalty to prove to the Republicans to ensure his upkeep.

  • Arif Khan  On August 30, 2010 at 12:38 am

    It is no use Communicating with a Hateful, Ungrateful person.Next time i will tell the Marines to check in with you before going to Swat and Sindh…You call others dogs, While you should look at your OWN Face in the Mirror!!!!!You have to be ashamed of yourself as thats why Pakistan is paying a heavy price and will continue to SUFFER as long as peopole like you EXIST in Pakistan Have a good life and atleast Pray for Pakistan….

    • pakpotpourri2  On August 30, 2010 at 10:55 am

      I fail to see why anyone needs to get personal here.
      Arif, Pakistan has suffered & is suffering because of US misdirected policies. I cannot give a political lesson here, as it is not within the purview of the discussion, however, I suggest you negate Kadri’s FACTS with FACTS, not emotions.

  • Faisal Malik  On August 30, 2010 at 9:05 am

    washington post reports the real truth behind the “aid” that is arriving from US.

    hamen 20 crore ka sirf “promise”…………

    haiti ko dhai arab dollars diye gay..

    now compare haiti and pakistan………..also the death destruction and devastation.

    and judge for yourself, friend? or foe?

    the country that takes money from us, and gives us the F-16’s after about what? 20 years?? or more??, what can i expect from that country??

    its a saying form Muhammad peace be upon him, mazdoor ko bhe uski mazdorri paseena khush honay se pehlay ada kar do…….

    and look what our friends do to us.!!

    huh?!!! aid?? ………….NOT.

    dont get riled up on behalf of others………….

    when i called the dogs , dogs, it was for a reason.

    what else can i call a dog?? if its a dog, i have to call it one. wouldnt i???

    get this.
    the real friend, SAUDI ARABIA, has quietly surpassed the highly politicized aid sender the US.

    now the yankees will be “yanking” their hair and what not!

  • Faisal Malik  On August 30, 2010 at 9:09 am

    i am not hateful………..

    neither am i ungreatful.

    give me something to be greaftul about and i will be.

    i am greatful to our friends the Saudis……….i am greatful to our Turkish brothers…….

    but the US??(quietly involved in the division of pakistan in ’71?? forget the “greatfulness”. not everyone in pakistan is a slave to their white masters.

    the country that goes on a atomic deal with the worst enemies of pakistan, the INDIANS, and deny us the same trade, u think i would be greatful to them??

    in their dreams.

    note:……….i let go of the personal attack that u did on me. i had my reasons to call them that. u only did so in your love of the white man.

    but i forgive u. after all, thats the nature of Muhammad peace be upon him, and the loyal companions.

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