A Missing Wikileak?

By: Dr Ghayur Ayub  

Tickers on different news channels were running fast at the bottom of the television screen. It was the evening before the next batch of Wikileaks were due for publication. I made sure to buy The Guardian – one of five newspapers publishing the documents. With remote control in hand, I was browsing through Sky News, BBC, CNN, Al-Jazeera and Press TV. To the best of my recollection, it was Sky News which caught my eye. The breaking news referred to a planned Israeli nuclear attack on two American cities, which were to be linked to Pakistan. America would have had a cause to respond in kind and take out Pakistani nuclear sites. I couldn’t believe my eyes! I rewound the news to double check what I had just read. Thinking details would be published in the Guardian newspaper the following day I did not record it. Later, I rang a friend and told him about the mind boggling news. The bizarre news kept me awake most of the night.

The next day I got the newspaper and went through it page by page. To my surprise, the “ticker news” could not be seen anywhere. I read it a couple of times but failed to find the particular piece. I could not understand how the newspaper missed such an important part of the leak? In pursuit, I opened the Wikileaks’ website and browsed through it carefully; no luck again. Then, I Googled relevant questions pertaining to Israel; still no luck! To make it more direct, I refined my search based on the information I had read on television. Again no reference. The news had just disappeared from cyberspace. Doubts started emerging whether I had really seen that segment which was embedded in my mind despite me vividly remembering its content. In fact I called a friend about it. So what happened to the news?

The only explanation I can think of is that the news item must have leaked out by mistake and then swiftly been retracted. After all it is common knowledge that the leaks are selective. I have no idea who else watched it during that brief period it was on the air. Was it a coincidence that at that very moment I was browsing through the channels? Many would say yes. But I don’t believe in coincidences. I call them part of ‘cosmic language’. All it means is that nature talks to us in its own language that has no syllabi. I may write on this subject some other time. But for now I had to find the ‘missing leak’.

During my search I came to know about a basic fact that even the embarrassment factor was not that high for the politicians and foreign diplomats as they all understood each other and routinely lied which explains the uniformity in their reaction to the leaks by denying them. It also became apparent that the leaks related to Israel were primarily Iran-centric and that Iran’s nukes pose an “existentialist threat” to Israel. It was interesting to find that before the leaks were publicized Natanyahu did not think they would seriously damage Israel’s position. No wonder when he visited jubilantly Tel Aviv’s Beit Sokolow, the home of the Israeli Journalists Association, for the prime minister’s annual meeting with the Editors Committee, he was all smiles. This is the place where Ben Gurion used to hold secret meetings. Last year he skipped the event; however, this time around it was different because of the Wikileaks publication. He showed up to display his political command by sticking to his public agenda and sending a message to the White House of what was befalling President Obama. As if he knew there was now no fear that Washington would persist on the question of a settlement freeze or to accelerate negotiations on withdrawal from the territories. He felt confident that the settlement issue would take a back seat and it was time to press on other issues such as extremism in Arab and Muslim world.

At Beit Sokolow he announced “no one will now be able to allege that Israel is acting irresponsibly”. Then he spoke about the Arab leaders urging them to “speak openly about Iran what they have been whispering to the Americans” Speaking his language in an interview with Time Magazine, Julian Assange sent an identical message “We can see the Israeli Prime Minister [Benjamin] Natanyahu coming out with a very interesting statement that leaders should speak in public like they do in private whenever they can”.

Natanyahu was proud that Israel maintained information security and that sensitive conversations were not conveyed in diplomatic cables but in face-to-face meetings or via secure telephones. For a split second that “mysterious ticker” flashed back and I thought if only Natanyahu knew that a blunder had been committed by someone somewhere exposing Israel’s intentions to start a nuclear nightmare!

He seemed content with the outcome of Wikileaks, ignoring what Huseyin Celik, the deputy leader of Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan’s AKP Party had said about Israel. Celic accused Israel of engineering the leaks, questioning how Israel could announce before the release that it would not suffer from its publication. He queried, “How did they know that?”

Instead, Natanyahu was quoting Arab leaders from Egypt, Jordan and Persian Gulf States, that they were also fearful of the Iranian threat. He was right in his statement because Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, the crown prince of Abu Dhabi warned, “Iran will threaten Israel’s existence should it go nuclear.” He called Ahmadinejad a “Hitler”, proposing that “if air strikes will not do the job in Iran the ground troops should be sent in.” Similarly, Saudi King Abdullah wanted the U.S. to “cut off the head of the snake”. Another UAE leader gave his reasons for Iran-bashing by saying that “Iran is establishing ‘sleeper emirates’ across the Muslim world including south Lebanon, Gaza, Kuwait, Bahrain and the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia with the mother of all ‘emirates’ in southern Iraq and now in Yemen.” Similar sentiments were heard from other pro-American leaders in the Arab world. One Israeli official stated, “the Arab countries are pushing United States towards military action more forcefully than Israel”.

As opposed to these reports the American intellectual Noam Chomsky cited a Brookings Institution poll that 80 per cent of Arabs consider Israel as the main threat followed by the U.S. at 77 per cent. Only 10 per cent rated Iran as a danger. He concluded by stating, “When they talk about Arabs, they mean the Arab dictators, not the population, which is overwhelmingly opposed to the conclusions that the analysts-Clinton and the media-have drawn.” According to another report, the Arab rulers “dare follow the American line completely, particularly if this includes a strike against Iran if they did, they’d risk popular revolts”.

I found nothing but Iran-centric Wikileaks in the Jerusalem Post and other Israeli newspapers. They were reminiscent of the “Zimmermann Telegram” during World War I. The declassified documents of history tell us that in early 1917 the British cryptography unit (“Room 40” ) decoded a telegram from German Foreign Minister Arthur Zimmermann to his country’s embassy in Mexico City proposing that the Mexicans launch a war against United States and retake Texas. The British showed the telegram to American diplomats. It prompted the Congress and U.S. President Woodrow Wilson to declare war on Germany which contributed to Germany’s defeat at the end of 1918.

A few months after this episode of the “Zimmermann Telegram” the Bolshevik Revolution took place in Russia. The new leadership wanted to declassify the documents of the Czar’s Foreign Ministry. The task was given to Leon Trosky – the people’s commissar for foreign affairs. One of the documents revealed the 1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement in which Britain and France planned how they would carve up the Ottoman Empire and also promised a hefty slice to Russia which desired Istanbul and the Black Sea straits. What if the secrets were revealed at that time? Would it have changed the history?

The point I am trying to make is that exposure of secrets can influence events if they appear at the right moment, as in the case of the Zimmermann telegram. So what could be the reason for Wikileaks and how will it affect short and long-term relations amongst Muslim countries vis-a-vis pro-Israel lobbies in America. Would Natanyahu be resting in a comfort zone and constantly pressurizing Obama to stop interfering in the internal matters of Israel especially the settlements issue had the ‘missing leak’ been circulated? Here comes the million dollar question. Is there a ‘missing leak’ exposing Israel’s heinous motives despite the leaked documents stating that “there is no Israel lobby involvement to involuntarily force US in a war to serve Jewish interests” and that “the world opinion is wielding towards declaring Iran as the head of a snake that must be cut off as the Saudi potentate described it” Not many would believe in the existence of such a ‘missing leak’. Even my own lawyer daughter thinks I may have misread the news. But deep down, I know what I saw and read that evening. Perhaps 50 years from now this “ticker news” may show up in a slue of declassified documents similar to Zimmerman’s secret telegram. The leaked telegram changed the course of history but the ‘missing leak’ cannot; as long as it remains missing.

(Dr Ghayyur Ayub is a political analyst & writes for The Nation).

NOTE:This is a cross post.

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  • Habib  On December 13, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    SKY NEWS?????

  • KHAN ZIA  On December 14, 2010 at 1:15 am

    hanks. It is highly probable and needs to be promulgated widely.

  • Alex James  On December 14, 2010 at 1:47 am

    Gordon Duff mentioned this last May
    3. Gordon Duff: Stage Being Set For “Dirty Bomb” False Flag Nuclear …
    4 May 2010 … attack in America to blame it on Pakistan and Iran. … execute a false flag nuclear attack on 4-6 major cities in US, Canada and Europe. …
    socioecohistory.wordpress.com/…/gordon-duff-stage-being-set-for-“dirty-bomb”-false-flag-nuclear-detonation-in-a-us-city-times-square-bom… – Cached

  • Sameeh  On December 14, 2010 at 3:05 am


    US Plans Nuclear Attack on Iran

    Philip Giraldi, a former intelligence officer in the CIA (and DIA), claims that the United States is developing a plan for the bombing of supposed military targets in Iran, which would include the use of NUCLEAR WEAPONS. The US strike would take place after a 9/11-type terrorist attack on the US. However, the US attack would not depend on Iran actually being involved in the terrorism. In short, the planned attack on Iran would be analogous to the unprovoked attack on Iraq.

    Could this criminal insanity be possibly true? Would the United States really launch an unprovoked nuclear attack? Giraldi is a reputable source and has provided information on Iran to Seymour Hersh in the past. Moreover, other articles have come out indicating that the United States has developed contingency plans to use nuclear weapons to attack military installations in Iran and North Korea. (I have included an article by William Arkin from the Washington Post). Giraldi adds that a terrorist attack on the US would serve as the pretext for putting the plan into action.

    Now could it be implemented? Certainly, the 9/11 terrorism led to the eventual attack on Iraq (neocons wanted to attack Iraq immediately after September 11), so another terrorist attack could be used as a pretext to attack Iran. I (along with knowledgeable people such as Scott Ritter) expected the United States to either have attacked Iran by now, or at least be far advanced in its propaganda offensive. While the Bush administration has talked about the danger of Iran, the propaganda offensive has not approached the intensity achieved during the 2002-2003 build-up for the attack on Iraq. Undoubtedly the problems in Iraq and war weariness of the American people have made such a propaganda offensive less viable at this moment. Also, many Americans now realize the war lies the Bush administration has relied upon, so any propaganda offensive, by itself, might be counterproductive. However, a new catastrophic terrorist event could so traumatize and anger a large sector of the American public as to provide a window of opportunity to launch an attack on Iran. The terror attack would be immediately followed by a massive propaganda barrage linking Iran to the terrorism. The idea that Iran is behind all terrorism has already appeared in the writing of neocons Michael Ledeen, Kenneth Timmerman and others. I have attached an article on the current effort to demonize Iran. http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news2/ft01.html

    Perhaps the most extreme propaganda piece is “Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians,” by Jerome R. Corsi, which appears to be for average and sub-average IQ types and has been made into a video. It involves the nuclear bombing of the US by terrorists who are equipped by Iran. “The scenario described in ‘Atomic Iran’ shows that a 150-kiloton IND exploded in New York would reduce much of the city to rubble. Some 1.5 million people would be killed instantly, with another 1.5 million certain to die over the next few days.” http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43766 (I have attached this article too)

    Naturally, Israel and its supporters are spearheading the move to attack on Iran. It should be emphasized that Israel has for some time regarded Iran as a serious threat. It is a threat to Israel’s nuclear monopoly in the Middle East and it provides support to Hezbollah in Lebanon and to a number of Palestinian resistance groups. My article “The future of the global War on Terror: Next stop, Iran” http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_future.htm provides information on this issue. My article came out in October 2004, but Israel continues to voice its serious concerns. Some recent comments follow. The Jerusalem Post of June 29 reported a presentation by the head of the IDF Intelligence Corps research division that Iran is committed to building a nuclear bomb, which would help it spread the Islamic revolution across the Middle East. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=1119925651633&p=1101615860782

    In late June, Israeli ambassador to the US Daniel Ayalon emphasized that Iran must be stopped from developing nuclear weapons. “The clock is ticking, and time is not on our side,” Ayalon said. http://ap.lancasteronline.com/4/israel_iran

    Sharon has supposedly handed Bush photographs of what are supposed to be Iran’s nuclear installations – http://www.counterpunch.org/nimmo04132005.html –which are certainly as accurate as the Israeli intelligence information on Saddam’s threatening WMD.

    And Richard Perle was the big hit of this May’s AIPAC conference in Washington with his call for an attack on Iran. The danger of Iran was featured in an AIPAC multimedia show, “Iran’s Path to the Bomb.” As the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank described the multimedia show: “The exhibit, worthy of a theme park, begins with a narrator condemning the International Atomic Energy Agency for being ‘unwilling to conclude that Iran is developing nuclear weapons’ (it had similar reservations about Iraq) and the Security Council because it ‘has yet to take up the issue.’ In a succession of rooms, visitors see flashing lights and hear rumbling sounds as Dr. Seuss-like contraptions make yellowcake uranium, reprocess plutonium, and pop out nuclear warheads like so many gallons of hummus for an AIPAC conference.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/23/AR2005052301565_pf.html

    Since a terrorist attack on the United States is, according to experts, almost inevitable, the Bush administration would likely be given the pretext to launch an attack on Iran. Would a propaganda offensive bring about public support for such an attack? With a Republican Congress it seems quite likely that there would be some type of congressional approval for a strike (not a declaration of war, of course). Maybe the Bush administration would not even seek congressional approval and launch the attack on the basis of alleged self-defense.

    Iran is not going to stand around and take it. It is considerably stronger than Iraq. An American attack on Iran using conventional weapons would cause chaos in the Middle East. The use of nuclear weapons would have all types of terrible international ramifications—World War IV against Islam, global terrorist strikes, Sino-Russian reaction, etc.

    As Giraldi points out, some Air Force officers are appalled by the nuclear strike plan “but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections.” Perhaps, no respectable person would want to risk his career to prevent a nuclear war. But this must be done if the United States, and planet Earth, is going to avoid a catastrophe.


  • Rameez Sultan  On December 14, 2010 at 3:13 am


  • Rashid Inam  On December 14, 2010 at 3:14 am

    The stage seems to be set to blame Pakistan and the ISI for the next false flag terrorist attack. We need to start thinking about how we’ll deal with it.

    The current crusades were launched after the false flag on America (911) was blamed on Muslims. No proof has yet been presented to justify American claims. In fact, a hundred questions about it still remain unanswered. Unfortunately no Muslim country has officially challenged the official American version of the event so the general belief still prevails that Muslims were to blame for it and every single Muslim in the world is somehow guilty.

    Later the British, Australians, Spanish also arranged attacks on themselves to join the American crusade. Lastly the Indians did the Bombay drama and blamed Pakistan and the Pakistan government has never properly challenged the Indian accusation.

    Now the stage has been set for the next event. Hilary Clinton has said that the next attack on America will come from Pakistan and the American Military Chief has said that the next attack on India will come from Pakistan. The ISI has been demonized and the WikiLeaks have pinned the blame on the ISI for the American defeat in Afghanistan. The Western public mind has been prepared to blame Pakistan just like OBL was demonized before 911 so that when it was executed the American media blamed OBL while 911 was still going on. It is easy to visualize the next terrorist attack during which the TV channels will be blaming Pakistan, ISI, LeT as the event is happening.

    We need to get our strategy right on how we will deal with the next big one.

    1) Will it be in America or India?
    2) Will Pakistan be given any time to respond or will it come under attack immediately. The Indian cold start doctrine might come into play.
    3) Will Zardari accept the blame or will Pakistan call it a false flag?
    4) How will the Pakistani media handle it? Their performance till now has been pathetic and a lot of the media have business deals with the US and India.
    5) Will Pakistan be given an ultimatum to surrender like Musharraf was threatened with being bombed back to the stone age?
    6) Will Pakistan give in or stand its ground?
    7) Will Pakistan accept American/Indian bombing of its territory in order to avoid a full scale war?
    8) Will Pakistan start attacking the Afghan Taliban in order to avoid being bombed?
    9) If Pakistan stands up to American/Indian threats what will be the consequence?
    10) Will the Americans be able to take control of Pakistan’s nukes or at least render them in-operational while India attacks without fear?
    11) Will Pakistan shut down the American supply routes?
    12) Will the Americans try to occupy Baluchistan to restore supply lines?
    13) Will the American-backed TTP start a massive suicide bombing campaign in Pakistan?
    14) Will American forces enter Pakistan? From Afghanistan or the sea?
    15) Will the Pakistan military fire on the Americans or will they fight with India while still treating America as a dear old friend?
    16) Will Blackwater do large scale sabotage inside Pakistan?
    17) Will the CIA-backed Zardari be eliminated or not?
    18) What will be the outcome?

    Another possibility is that the idea of a false-flag to be blamed on Pakistan is just a tactic to scare Pakistan into doing what the enemies want and in reality they have no plan to actually do it. By just making it seem like they’ll do it they may be able to coerce Pakistan into bending to their wishes.

    The reason to believe that they’ll actually do it is that American cannot leave without finishing the job within Pakistan, and that job is to de-nuke it. That is the reasons the Americans are in Afghanistan and they WILL NOT go before this job is done. For years they’ve tried to destroy Pakistan internally by regime change, economic collapse, suicide bombings, BLA, TTP, Zardari etc but Pakistan is still standing. The Yugoslavia doctrine has so far failed to work in Pakistan. According to their calculations Pakistan should have collapsed by now but since it hasn’t they may need to do a direct attack.

    From India’s perspective this is the golden opportunity that they could only dream about. The Americans and NATO sitting in Afghanistan ready to help India finish off Pakistan. They will never get this opportunity again so they have to take the risk now. They must have been assured by the Americans about suppressing the nukes.

  • Bashir Syed  On December 14, 2010 at 4:19 am

    As Muslims we need to reflect at the message expressed in last five (13 to 17) Ayats of Surah At-Tariq (the Nighht Star) # 86, in the Qura’n:
    13. Behold this is the Word that disntiguishes (Good from Evil):
    14. It is not a thing of amusement.
    15. As for them, they (the Evil people) are but plotting a scheme,
    16. And I am planning a scheme.
    17. Therefore, grant a delay to the Unbelievers: Give respite to them gently (for awhile).
    How many people know about the CRIMES of HENRY KISSINGER, who pursuaded Richard Nixon to grant a Green Light to Israel for continuing to build her Nuclear Stock-pile. Reference: “Nixon, Israel, and the Bomb,” — “ISRAEL CROSSES THE THRESHOLD: When President Richard Nixon took office he was confronted with evidence that Israel would soon have the Bomb. Newly declassified documents divulge what happened next.” by Avner Cohen & William Burr, pages 22-30, Bullleting of the Atomic Scientists, May/June 2006. [Pervez Hood Bhoy, serves as one of the sponsor on this Magazine ought to reflect and do some soul searching]. {Please refre to archivesposted on the web at http://www.thebulletin.org. It was a Top-Secret Agreement arranged by Henry Kissinger during the visit of Golda Meir to Wazshington, during September 1969, which literally gave the GREEN LIGHT to Israel to continue building the Nuclear Boms (estimated to more than 300), and as long as Israel does not Test the Bomb, we will look the other way. But no one can change Allah’s Plans.
    Israel could not resist testing her bomb, and did so with the help of South Africa in Souith Atlantic on September 22, 1979, and its blast flash was detected by Instruments placed in VELA Satellite. In order to cover this up, an Ad Hoc Presidential Panel was appointed to look into the data sent by VELA Satellite, and report prepared by Dr. Frank Press, dated July 15, 1980 was presented to the President citing that it was false alarm due to faulty instruments in the Satellite (a LIE invented.)
    But According to Allah’s plan, a disgruntled Israeli Nuclear Technician, Mordechai Vanunu, provided a photographic proof to Sunday Times, which after verification were published by the same newspaer on October 5, 1986.
    The revelation from this declassified document aka National Security Study Memorandum or “NSSM 40.” nicknamed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Test,” leads one to connect the dots with JFK’s assassination, by Lee Harvey Oswald, who was eliminated through bullets fired at close range, by a Jewish Night-Club Operator, Jack Ruby, to erase all or any traces. [Jack Ruby died due to Cancer caused by poisons given to him in jail, to eliminate all the links or traces].
    This jives very well with revelation by Victor Ostrovsky in book, “THE OTHER SIDE OF DECEPTION: A Rogue Agent Expresses the Mossad’s Secret Agenda,” Chapter 30, Harper Collins Publishers, New York 1994. ISBN 0-06-017635-0.] Here is smal blurb posted on the back cover of this book:
    “On the planned assassination of George Bush. . . .
    “In an effort to bring the right-wing government of Israel to the negotiating table, Bush had put a freeze on all loan guarantees. . . . Upon making that decision, he was regarded as rthe greatest enemy of of the state of Israel. . . . A certain right-wingclique in the Mossad picked the Madrid peace talks as its staging ground. . . . Three Palestinian extremists were taken by a Kidon unit from their hiding place in Beirut. . . . {My controller] called on Tuesday, October 1. They are out to kill Bush,’ he said.” How Bush was saved is explained in Chapter 30 of this book. Which sheds light on the events of JFK’s assassination in 1963, committed by the same folks, who was about to confront visiting Ben Gurion about the real nature of Dimona as Nuclwear Bomb Factory (but not a Textile Mill as claimed), as shown on aerial surveillance photpgraphs taken by U-2 Plane during Eisenhower administration.
    By the way, most fissionable materials (to achieve this goal) were either stolen/supplied from United States [(1). Plutonium from Kerr-McGee’s Plutonium Plant in Oklahoma City, OK, (2) Highly Enriched Uranium HEU from NUMEC Plant by Dr. Zalman Shapiro, (wo paid $~ $900,00 fine to US-AECV), and (3) Highjacking a ship carryiong Uranium ore in the Mediterranean, transferred to an Israeli vessel and taken to Haifa, Isrtael. All of this info is in public domain, some published by Israelis, and other by America authors]
    So please pay attention to the Ayats (13-17) mentioned above, not to consider the above mentioned events as “Conspiracy Theory,” but a Plan of Allah.

    Bashir A. Syed
    Retired Aerospace Physicist

  • Ayaz  On December 14, 2010 at 4:21 am

    Very revealing, yet interesting. Its not beyond belief. Fits into the scheme of things and previous knowledge.

  • Minhaj  On December 14, 2010 at 4:25 am

    Some interesting comments on Wikileaks – eye opener

  • Shaukat Qadeer  On December 14, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Fascinating. Israel’s influence over the US is well known, but if it can also prevent Wiki from leaking about it, the thought is horrifying.
    And the possibility of such a devious plan, even more so.

  • Seema Arif  On December 15, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Isn’t this wikileak thing again a planned 9/11. Plainly the mode and target has changed but objectives are the same: to create a further divide in world politics to create a new world order of their choice.

    Isn’t it an attempt to drive past friends further away: The USA, Pakistan and KSA strong allies of Afghan war. Isn’t it they have not failed to reach the objectives of Afghan war….they have crushed jihadi power and has tainted red the whole concept of Jihad – the holy war.

    Isn’t it that they are going to paint it Iran Vs. Middle East rather than Iran Vs. Israel.

    They have isolated Iran, cornered Pakistan and now its high time to corner KSA and its Imperial kings. Their wealth is their target. They have created an illusion that Iran is their target, in fact it is KSA and Arab Muslim middle East….and the only protector could be Pak Army….. no more a serious threat ….enough damage has been done to it. When you have so much disruption in your own home….you cannot go out to protect others.

    There must be an end of the crowning of the knighthood….the time has come….when
    current Pak gov is doing everything to spoil relationships between KSA and Pakistan.

    What a melodrama…?

    Seema Arif
    Asst. Prof. Psychology
    Faculty of Management Studies
    University of Central Punjab
    Lahore. Pakistan.

  • Inam Khan  On December 15, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    Most of Wikileaks is full of imaginative falsehood of which Pakistan nuclear attack on US sites is a very small bit………………….Inam Khan

  • Arshad Gul  On December 16, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    islamic Country pakistan is the worse country on the map of the world, and muhllahs are the worse breed of the human, pakistan is the only country where prayers has been saying under the shadow of the guns and pakistan claimed to be a islamic country it is a joke being a muslim i am sham to myself as a muslim i wish i become christian which i am working on it it wont be surprised if me and my whole family become the followers of Christ along with my other myuslims friends which they show interest in it please try to understand my muslim friends who are converting to Christianity thanks Arshad Gul

  • S Turkman  On December 19, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Could he then tell us, why USA wants him arrrested to make him stand trial for all those leaks?
    These remarks sound pretty stupid from a Pakistani using a fake I.D.

  • janine  On January 8, 2011 at 10:38 am

    this site was a breath of fresh air
    thanks guys very useful

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