The crusaders are back

By: Dr Muzaffar Iqbal    

Mercifully, it was Vladimir Putin and not Osama bin Laden who characterised the UN resolution number 1973 as “defective and flawed”, even though he could have stopped it by using Russian veto power. “It allows everything,” he said, “it resembles medieval calls for crusades.”

Regardless of this characterisation and regardless of the reasons given by Britain and France, the two “great powers” responsible for massacres across the Muslim world as well as desecration of almost the entire Muslim world during the last three centuries, this UN resolution really takes us to a new level of western shrewdness and a new level of “international” coalition against Muslims. It has achieved what no previous resolution was able to. Also for the first time, we have “Muslim” support for West’s aggression against a Muslim country in this naked form. Imagine upstarts like Qatar and UAE sending “their” planes to bomb Libya! Imagine a whole array of potentates and dictators “helping” Libyans get rid of their dictator!

There can hardly be any situation more ironic than this. But nothing matters anymore. Neither logic nor ethics; all that matters now is brute force. Morals, ethics, even basic human decency has long gone. If anyone is in doubt, just have a look at the grinning face of Jeremy Morlock, the young US soldier, posing for a photo, with his hand holding up the head of the dead Afghan boy he and his colleagues have just killed. These pictures were released by the German magazine Der Spiegel and they are available on the internet. But the strange thing is that there has been no outcry against this inhumanity, no “international” cry for justice, decency, even humanity. Just a horrible silence. According to testimony collected by Der Spiegel the boy had, as a matter of routine, lifted up his shirt to reveal that he was not hiding a suicide bomb vest. That was the moment Morlock, according to a pre-arranged plan, threw a grenade at the boy that exploded while other members of the rogue group who called themselves the “kill team” opened fire. Then they took pictures, smoked cigarettes and made jokes.

It is hard to believe that we are living in the twenty-first century. Even crusaders would feel ashamed for these acts of inhumanity. But nothing matters anymore, only greed and lust for power and brute force matter and these are abundantly present in the cunning “diplomacy” of the western world as well as in their arsenal of deadly weapons.

But back to Libya – a country forsaken by the entire Muslim world because of its ruler. This is of course not without justification: the maverick colonel has been a thorn in every eye and his “craziness” has soured relationships with many rulers, but to hand over Libya to the West for an undisclosed and open-ended invasion is utter folly. The UN is of course not to be blamed; as the true mistress of its creators, it always does what it is asked to. But unlike Iraq, this time around there is no outrage against this intervention; no mention of the duplicity that characterises this western intervention while similar situations in Bahrain, Morocco and Yemen remain unattended.

“Libya is not another Iraq,” we are being repeatedly told, but it is. The US resolution is so vague that it really allows everything. Air strikes can cripple Libyan air force, they can even destroy its communication system, but eventually somebody has to arrive on the soil and that is where the slippery resolution has already started to lead. First it was said that it will only be the enforcement of a no-fly zone that will be required. Then, that new incarnation of Lord Blair, Mr David Cameron, started to talk about “international forces knocking over the government”; in other words, the objective is “regime change”, just as it was in Iraq. His government comfortably won the Commons vote by 557 to 13, even though a few backbenchers used the six-and-a-half-hour debate to raise concerns about how the intervention would end.

Of course the nightmarish scenario for most westerners is the deployment of ground troops, not because they think it is immoral and illegal, but because it contains the possibility of body bags returning home – something everyone dreads. Thus when pressed on whether British ground troops could be deployed in a defensive role, Britain’s cunning response was: “I don’t think we would at this stage rule anything in or rule anything out but I agree with the distinction that you draw between landing an occupying force and the use of anybody on the ground. This is called testing waters, preparing public for the inevitable. Both Britain and France already know that they will need to send in troops even though US support is lacking for this, Mr Obama also knows this to be in the plan.

So, if we have western forces in Libya, and the Middle East continues to explode at the rate at which it is exploding, then where are we going with this open ended intervention: Are we at the beginning of a grand reconfiguration of the entire region? Are we at the beginning of a new world order in which Europe will claim its share of Muslim world along with the United States of America? If yes, then who is next? Syria is the obvious choice, as Yemen is too poor and too remote and all the other countries are already client states.

Imagine a new Middle East under western control, with all its oil and riches serving the masters. Imagine the fate of some one billion Muslims whose lives will be reconfigured in a manner they cannot even imagine. And the irony of this situation is countries like Pakistan, which can really play a role in stopping these new crusaders, are mired in an endless drama of no consequence.

The writer is a freelance columnist.

Note:This is a cross post from THE NEWS.

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  • Ijaz Khan  On March 25, 2011 at 3:34 am

    West acting like ‘vampires’ who are after Libya’s oil: Mugabe rightly stated. The Crusaders at least thought they were doing something for their religion.These vampires are acting on poor greed.Wrong analogy?

  • Simon  On March 25, 2011 at 3:38 am

    As many will remember, we couldn’t have gotten off to a better start on winning hearts and minds when Lt. Gen. William “Jerry” Boykin, on his speaking tour of churches in 2003, publicly and in uniform proclaimed that the so-called war on terror was really a fight between Satan and Christians.

    He made comments like, “We in the Army of God, in the House of God, the Kingdom of God have been raised for such a time as this,” saying that George W. Bush, who had ignorantly called the war a crusade, was “in the White House because God put him there,” and referring to the capture of Somali warlord Osman Atto, said, “I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol.”

    Speaking at a Rotary Club meeting in his hometown of Concord, N.C., in December 2006, one of Boykin’s supporters, former Rep. Robin Hayes, R-N.C., pronounced that stability in Iraq ultimately depended on “spreading the message of Jesus Christ, the message of peace on earth, good will towards men. … Everything depends on everyone learning about the birth of the savior.”

    While few are as overt in their comments as Boykin and Hayes, plenty of other representatives of our government have made it clear that they view the United States as a Christian nation and the war on terror as a spiritual battle, promoting the specious notion that victory in Iraq and Afghanistan is somehow necessary to preserve our own religious freedom here in America.

    Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., in his remarks on the passage of H.R. 847, a 2007 resolution “recognizing the importance of Christmas and the Christian faith,” said that “… American men and women in uniform are fighting a battle across the world so that all Americans might continue to freely exercise their faith …”

    The most recent Secretary of the Army, Pete Geren, in his commencement address at last year’s West Point graduation, invoked the words of Thomas Jefferson, saying that Jefferson would understand the threat we face today — tyranny in the name of religion. Geren quoted a few words from Jefferson’s Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, and then he said: “Two hundred years after Thomas Jefferson penned these words, your sons and daughters are fighting to protect our citizens and people around the world from zealots who would restrain, molest, burden and cause to suffer those who do not share their religious beliefs, deny us, whom they call infidels, our unalienable rights — life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
    US needs to take a very deep look at WHAT they are doing!

  • siddiqui my  On March 25, 2011 at 8:00 am

    Dear Dr Iqbal,
    Did the Crusaders ever really had gone back ?
    They redrew the map of ME after WWI and now they say why can it be not changed once again ?
    Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Baharain and eventually Saudi Arabia and Pakistan… all are on the hit list !!
    But we are our own worst enemy…look at Muslim world’s responce ? …We are certainly at the “begining of a grand reconfiguration…” Muslim world is in total disarray as in the pre Salah ud Din Ayubi era! That era as you would know better did not last even a century; a small fraction of time, just a bye line in human history …….. ….and yes, even that times great muslim empires from India to Spain did not respond…………..
    It is all certainly sad for us all who live in this shameful era of History but just as conquest of Jerusalem is just a few lines in history books Salah ud Din shines for all times…….so I am not passimistic; often one has to learn a lesson the hard way; so we the muslims are learning it now. Ours ie yours and mine generation, tragedy is we have to be living now and bear the shame and sorrow of our weakness and degradation……………
    I do feel ashamed but under the circumstances I do not fault or blame Qadafi; it is easy but not graceful to kick a down and out man ! This is the time to close our ranks; the West will pick us one by one and we shall ourselves be party to these pickings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    At the moment the Ummah must close ranks ,,,if it can,,, and it is a BIG IF………

    Dear sir, your name sounds very fimiliar…if you are the same Muzaffar Iqbal who has been such an elequent spokesman of Islam, then you must not despair… Human history months and years are of no consequence….humans forget the past very quickly, Give us hope and courage to bear all this and renmain steadfast in our Faith………..It was peoples like you, the great Sheikhs & Imams of yore, who always in grave moments of despair preached Faith and Firm Belief in ALLAH and it is for the courage of such minority that Islam has survived more than any other system, ism or idealogy. Survive and Rise we shall……………………..
    God be with us

  • Amir Rana  On March 25, 2011 at 11:22 am

    We are for sure passing through a very difficult time. I don’t think humanity in general and Muslims in particular have gone into such a situation ever before. Everyone of us should study history, at least some selective parts of it. My request to everyone is to go through the circumstances, modus-operandi and resultant dilemmas of Crusades and fall of Spain.

    We are going through the same process. The game is same, the players are same and even the moves are same. Muslims as a whole faltered at that time and are again following the same path. Salahuddin Ayubi, Badar Bin Mugheera and Moosa Bin Nuseer were “terrorists” of that time and we all know who we are talking about in these days. All those who struggled in history were portrayed as agents of external forces and had to fight against their own people for long times before they could do something to cater for the real enemy. We are doing the same, again and again, without realizing that the only and I mean ONLY solution would be to stand up on our own feet, support those who have the courage to challenge the brutal crusaders and stand besides those who are afraid of nothing. Yes, there is no perfect solution and there are no perfect people for that matter. BUT think honestly how we could break the shackles. Is there any other way??? We hate suicide bombers but isn’t it the only effective way to challenge your enemy who is much much stronger than you??? Can we start our struggle by promoting primary education, then secondary, then specialized one then produce scientists to develop competitive technology for us, then to start developing our economy and so on. And during all this process, would the others be sleeping. Above all, who would in fact allow you to adopt that path even if we opt to? For instance, can you even dare to think of using your precious coal and oil reserves for your own benefit? Not at all. Our army, our agencies, our politicians, our ethnic groups, our judiciary and our politically mingled up religious elite would be there to protect the interests of their true MASTERS (I think Raymond Davis fiasco is not that old to have been scrached out of our memories). Yes education, economy, social values and bla bla bla are also very important but these are upto some extent the parallel activities and major part of it gets activated after achieving true independence and getting hold of your strategic decision making through revolutionary steps.

    I don’t know when we will be able to grasp, at least to some extent, Iqbal’s philosophy of self respect and self recognition. Difference in force, resources and technology was always there but didn’t we defeat the superpowers of past (roman and persian empires for instance). Iqbal very rightly says “Momin hai to be taigh bhi larta hai sipahi”.

    This is not a difficult formula. What we have to do is to simply stand up with whole hearted BELIEF in Allah, slap on the face of international whores like UN and NATO and the things would start changing at a fast pace.

    May Allah show us the right path and bless us with courage to stand up.

    • Portugheis Alberto  On March 25, 2011 at 11:25 am

      Do you really hate this world and your life so much? why are you promoting wars? the solution is NOT in getting the Muslim community to develop and manufacture their own weapons, which you delicately call “technology”, but in getting Eastern and Western Europe, North America, China, etc, to STOP the Arms Trade. For this we need to abolish Armed Forces, military schools, military service (compulsory or professional), weapon research, development, manufacture and trade.

      The filthy rich will become a little less rich, but the 3 million people who now die annually in Africa, through lack of food or medical care, would be able to live and lead happy lives. In fact, the population of the whole planet will be happy, as there wouldn’t be so many millions the world over mourning their loved relatives and friends, killed “only” and “exclusively” because some very rich people (oil, gold and press barons, arms manufacturers, bankers, Church leaders, etc) wish to remain rich forever.

      You should not allow yourself to be brainwashed and should not inadvertently brainwash others, by talking about Crusades, or war against Islam. There is nothing of the sort in the weapon business. Weapons have no religion or political colour. Weapons must be sold and used, to keep the industry going.

      The entire Latin American continent is Christian and weapon manufacturing countries do the same over there. Washington and London always manage to “produce” military dictators for Latin America. Evil people, who will have to eventually go, once USA decided it is time for them to go. In my lifetime only, we’ve had in Latin America dozens of dictators, decades of torturing and illegal imprisonment, dozens of people’s revolutions, of military coups, of Civil Wars, of wars between two or three countries, many guerrilla armies, many mercenary armies, many terrorists, etc.

      All of this is necessary in order to keep the Arms Trade alive. I speak with scientists who are desperate for secret agents, diplomats, politicians etc, to manage the creation of a war, wherever, so that their new inventions can be tested. You cannot test a new bomb in a laboratory and destroy the said laboratory. You cannot test it in the middle of nowhere, if they aren’t any buildings to destroy or people to kill.

      Once tested, it the new product proves to be effective (kills and destroys more than rival bombs) it guarantees promotion to the scientist and many orders for the manufacturers.
      So many other sectors of sociery welcome wars for the same reason: money. Makers of soldiers uniforms find wars fantastic !!!!! when a soldier dies, his uniform doen’t go to another soldier. Fabulous business. Funeral services are also delighted with the money wars bring them. Churches too are very happy, as wars attract more people to pray, which often results in donations.

      We must de-militarise the world, if we want to save the planet for many generations to come. We already have enough suffering caused by nature (volcanoes, floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, malaria, cancer, Aids, traffic accidents, etc, etc).


      • S U Turkman  On March 26, 2011 at 1:35 am

        Alberto you do not understand. Islam tells us to conquer the world and free this world of Non Moslims or collect Protection Money from them. Allah never said “Learn Sciences and advance Technology …!” in Qoraan. We have to only do, what Allah says so, manufacturing weapons like Pakistan and Iran does is a part of Islam. Technology means building Atomic Bombs and Missiles and this is why Pakistan built them and Libya, Syria and Iraq have tried to build them while Iran is still trying to build Atomic Bombs.
        Please don’t preach to us Fighters of Allah, this world should be Arms Free because its against our religion …!

    • Mubaschir Inayet  On March 25, 2011 at 3:18 pm

      The West and The East have their own interests. No one is a “friend” of each other.

      To label the West Crusaders and the Middle Easterners as Jihadees is not the way to go; it does not hold any water unless both announce as them such.

      Emotions are good if governed by reason.

      Spice and meat eaters love emotions more than rationality.

      Now go figure!!

      • Arif Khan  On March 26, 2011 at 4:20 am

        Mubasher baby naybe they should all become Vegetarians as now Arabs have a lot iof money and DONT HAVE TO EAT LIZARDS and CA MEL MEAT..But all kinds of good Greens from the Sub Continent, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, and they wont be Hot heads anymore and be cool as a cucumber Arif

      • Amir Rana  On March 26, 2011 at 3:52 pm

        I fully agree that emotions should be backed by rationality, but this holds true upto a certain extent. Rationality would never allow a mother to jump into a river and rescue her drowning child but emotions would.

        If some robbers break into your house, rationality would hold its stature upto the limit where you could save your life at the cost of some financial loss. BUT when this limit gets crossed and it is obvious that the cost would not be limited to money, you have to keep rationality aside and charge up your emotions to get ready for a do or die situation.

        BELIEF is the highest form of emotional charge which surprisingly gets automatically blended with rationality. In fact the rationality thing gets put on to auto-pilot in this case. Major breakthroughs in the history of human race were all results of willpower, resolute objectivity and motivation (or BELIEF in other words).

        One more thing, at a given time, the things sometimes considered to be irrational become rationalities after being made possible at another time. (Invention of plane, construction of London Bridge, landing on moon, humiliation of US in Vietnam and the whole crusade forces in Afghanistan etc)

  • Ayesha Khan  On March 25, 2011 at 11:50 am

    I second what Alberto is saying, there is only one world and we need to act as global citizens working locally to de-militarise the world, It was a Swiss magazine that published…85% of arms are manufactured by the five permanent members of the UNSC. Time for all citizens to question what their governments are really doing! religious, ethnic topics add spice to the greed wars generated by govts.

    • S U Turkman  On March 26, 2011 at 12:48 am

      Yes Aisha Khan they are the one’s, who brought us to this modern world from Kerosene Lamp and Bull Cart World also and have not advanced or rich by just selling Weapons to us.

  • Nasim Hassan  On March 25, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    I agree with Dr. Muzaffar Iqbal on this issue. First they come for human rights. Then it changes to Regime Change. After regime change they stay there to bring in democracy.

    In a democracy they want Karzai or Zaradri and the rest is history.

    Nasim Hassan

    • S U Turkman  On March 26, 2011 at 1:06 am

      Mr. Hassan, when did they want Karzai?
      * Was not Karzai the only person recommended by Pakistan before he was installed. If he was no good and Afghans had wanted someone else, why had voted for him Election later?
      * When did they want Karzai to be elected 2nd time?
      * Had not USA told him, not to run in Elections?
      * Had not USA wanted him replaced?
      * Has he not been a Pain in the Ass for USA after getting elected 2nd time?
      * If they had wanted Zardari to become President, why had Pakistanis voted for PPP?
      * Did not Pakistanis know, he would become President if they voted for him?
      Since you people do not believe in facts and believe in Conspiracy Theories only, its useless to talk about facts.

      * Bangladeshis blame USA for not stopping Pak Army from killing them.
      * 2/3rd of Iraqi population, the Arab Shiyah and 22% of Soonni Kurds used to blame USA for not attacking Saddam, when he was bombing the shit out of them before USA had imposed No Fly Zone in Iraq.
      * Moslims all over the world used to blame USA for not intervening in Yugoslavia to save Bosnian Moslims but now after USA has gotten Bosnia and Kosovo become free countries you claim, USA intervened to occupy them.
      So, if USA does not help you, she is a Criminal and when she helps you, she is a Criminal. The Problem is your hate of USA though you thankless Beggars have been living off US Charity of Aid and Loans since 1953. When you people are so insane and conniving Liars, why should anybody believe in your B.S.?

    • siddiqui my  On March 26, 2011 at 5:26 pm

      I request the Moderator to advise all ( especially one self styled intellectual ) to use decent language; we shall even then respect his views
      Thank you

  • siddiqui my  On March 26, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    A very serious matter is being turned into a circus ; Jihad, Crusade, human emotions, rationality and what not but the real issue is all this happening in the muslim lands ? Will as a result of today’s demonstartion in London, USA declare a no fly zone over south England ? Why Kashmir has not ben declared a NO Fly zone ??
    How long it took them to intervene in Bosnia and that too to divide it…how quickly UN plebesite was conducted in Indonesia to create a christian state…but Kashmir is still burning……….Muslims are emotional and the West is rational ??/ QED………..Why no Fly zone was declared when the British were killing and opressing the Irish for years ?
    Yes, there is over lap between rationality and emotions…is this really bad ? are we humans or machines ? It is emotions which make our life beautiful and sublime; we are not machines!!
    Today ALL MUSLIM LANDS are under pressure…why? what about south americas which has constantly produced dictators ?
    Is this all by chance ? or is it idealogical as well we happen to sit over most earthly resources ??
    Is it all by chance? why a mulim padestrian is always run over ? coincidence? chance ? very strange indeed ??

    • S U Turkman  On March 27, 2011 at 2:34 am

      No Siddiqi, its not strange. USA supported Anti Communist regimes during Cold War and a lot of rulers took advantage of that.
      * After 1977, USA changed policy and had stopped CIA from assassinating Socialists and Communist rulers of 3rd World Countries.
      * USA’s Policy changed again after disintegration of USSR and Sanctions started dropping on Military Rulers.
      * Now Pro Democracy Protesters are being backed.
      Looks like you only have a problem with Democracy and USA.

      • siddiqui my  On March 27, 2011 at 6:25 am

        Dear Turkman,
        Yes I have a problem with DEMOCRACY a la USA style ! accordring to your own submission usa is like a whore changing customers all the time !! One night cozying up to Stalin and next night embracing Peking and while Germany is occupying Europe and young americans are dying on the battle fields of Europe General Motors is supplying engines for Hitlers’ tanks !! deadly chemicals were regularly shipped to Germany by german subsdies in USA…………… want authentic refrences ???????
        With due respect, USA is not a democracy BUT A MILITARY STATE…..Pentagon controls its foreign policy and ….please read its history from genocide of the Red Indians to Afghanistan……..with your lucidity and command of language you can surely write a highly readable USA SAGA………………….why not try your hand at the latest Davis saga !!
        i do not fault USA for acting in their self interest; we all do that; it is part of human nature but then do not pretend otherwise
        Real democray means people are free to make their choices; others have no business to impose their systems. Yes, I grant every people have their own interests and have the right to advance them but that does not give them the right of genocide ? Imposition of one’s ideas is NO DEMOCRACY,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        Mr Turkman I have no problem with your love affair with USA; that is your choice; I certainly admire USA but I do not love her…Elizebeth Taylor was very beautiful but I could never love her…she was not my type…….free choice is real democracy; it can never be imposed; please understand
        Thank you and God be with you ( or USA should be with you )

  • Syed Sadruddin Hussain  On March 27, 2011 at 1:25 am

    Amir Rana:
    The recent attacks on Libya to dislodge the permanent ruler, Dictator, Qaddafi has been welcomed by the rebels as a last resort because Qadafi want to stay in power like any other Muslim ruler, kings, Amir, prince who have no regard to public feelings and democracy. The only solution is that these permanent kings and Amirs ruling the Arabs with an iron hand should become constitutional heads like Queen of UK and give power to elected government for four years rule followed by general elections. These Kings and Amirs should be made to realise that the land belongs to the people. As for other countries, there should be an elected President/PM for four years term subject to a maximum of two terms after which they should honourably quit or removed by force. No dictatorial rule should be tolerated as the land belongs to the people. There should be a Muslim World Agency to serve as a watch dog to implement this rule otherwise the UN should interfere as a last resort.

    • Nasim Hassan  On March 27, 2011 at 1:26 am

      I believe if Qadhafi was provided with a valid option by Arab Laegue or Turkey, he would have accepted retirement. This way there would be peaceful regime change and the new government will retrive 30 billion dollars frozen by the USA.

      However Arab League and OIC supported the regime change.

      The western media controls the minds of American people. European people are more sophisticated but their rulers follow America anyway. Saddam wanted cease fire agreement but Americans did not provide him. They insulted him in a letter from the US president who wanted to set an example.

      Now they tell us that Qadhafi is crazy and he will not listen to anyone. Turkey is trying behind the scenes to resolve this issue in NATO. I am sure if Turkey provides an avenue where Qadhafi can retire with dignity, he will certainly take it.

      He paid two billion dollars for lockerbie accident and closed his nuclear program. He handed over everything including the evidence against Pakistan.

      A peacful solution will be better otherwise, Europe will face humanitarian crisis and America will find another quicksand in the deserts of Libya.

      Nasim Hassan

    • Portugheis Alberto  On March 27, 2011 at 1:30 am

      It is the West “who have no regard to public feelings and democracy”. This is why the West creates these dictators. They all study at Western universities or Military Schools. They are tremendously spoilt by Western dignataries for years. Most Western Governments treats them with great diplomacy and friendship. They are invited by Presidents, Prime Ministers and Kings or Queens. They are groomed to perfection, so that there is a point when our secret services can start their job, infiltrating those countries, and working with students, factory workers, etc, to prepare for revolution and, if possible, civil war and foreign intervention.

      All beautifully planned, to keep the Death Industry going. (Masterclasses)

  • S U Turkman  On March 27, 2011 at 2:26 am

    Here comes the West Hating Buddhist Crusader, Alberto swinging with, …
    It is the West “who have no regard to public feelings and democracy”. This is why the West creates these dictators.
    * West freed about a 100 countries from its rule after WW II.
    * Nobody saw the West going back to those countries and telling rulers of those countries ‘Become Dictators …!’
    * The West imposes Sanctions on Military Ruled Countries and Dictators.
    * The West has been on the side of Protesters in Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Libya etc.
    * The West is bombing Libya because of Pro Democracy Rebels.

    But crazy Alberto does not see all that because he is wearing his Goggles of Hate of the West.

  • S U Turkman  On March 27, 2011 at 7:59 am

    Mr. Siddiqi,
    I know, Hitler was treated like one of their own by daily New York Times as soon as he had started out with attack on a Police Station.
    After he became Chancellor, he was popular in USA and Germany had remained a Trade Partner of USA as before. USA was not at war with Germany until Germany’s Ally, Japan had attacked Pearl Harbor destroying 1/4 of US Navy.
    You made me laugh by telling me USA was just like Pakistan being ruled by Army. Did you know, according to US Constitution, President is also C-in-C?
    I have read US History and know what powers Elected Government always had and has.
    What Davis Saga?
    Pakistan threw away Self Defense clause of International Law, Pak Penal Code and even Islamic Law by refusing to accept Witnesses, who’s account clearly proved, he shot in Self Defense though name of country is Islamic Republic just to blackmail USA.
    I agree, people should have rights but I do not know, why you do not think Afghans have those rights too and they do not want to be ruled by Pakistanis called Taliban, the Pak Army Mercenaries. Even if the few ISI Agent Afghans could win, they would have ran in last 2 Elections but they knew, they are considered Traitors by Afghans and nobody was going to vote for them.
    Could you tell me, why you people want to loot Afghans and rape their Daughters etc?

  • Abdul Qadir Khan  On March 28, 2011 at 6:51 am

    Reasonable analysis of the situation but I have my reservations or say my own conviction regarding the point raised in last paragraph. No doubt it is The Muslim’s affair but then it is very strongly Arabs affair too. In my opinion, Pakistan is presently not in a position to give its un invited and undesired expertise on this issue. We have so many other internal issues to deal with.
    A request to Madam YAA, Please select the option of ‘display comments after approval’ in dash board of your blog. S U Turkman is trying his best to perform his AGENDA in this blog. A critique is must for any subject to develope but just observe his negative approach ‘always’ and the language he has used.
    I believe senior and serious writers are contributing in your blog. At least give them a place, they should feel happy to join to for brain storming and expressing their concerns. Freedom of expression is certainly desired but agents in your own council should be honourably thrown out by the administrators to safe guard the core purpose of that gathering.

  • S U Turkman  On March 28, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    So, A Q Khan thinks, this is not an open Forum. Its a Mosque, where all of us are supposed to say ‘Aameen’ to everything he rights because he is an Imam of this Mosque.
    No Facts should be produced against one-sided Tunnel Vision Writers on this forum by me because that would be considered my nefarious Agenda though I do not agree with US Policy sometimes myself.
    The problem seems to be that when people are left speechless by my Reason and Logic, they have nothing left to say but to demand the Moderator to kick me out of this Forum that they considered their Mosque.
    The Proof is, nobody puts up an argument against, what I write because its a complete Thesis hard to argue about.
    Nobody has told me, …
    * … why Taliban have not ran in last 2 Afghan Elections if really Afghans love them?
    * … what has USA stolen from Pakistan, Iraq or Afghanistan?
    * … why they consider Iraq and Afghanistan occupied by USA and not Germany, Japan, Italy, U.K., Norway, Holland, Belgium, S Korea etc, when US Army is there also? (Western Europe and Japan since WW II. S Korea since 1952)
    … And the list goes on while they keep propagating ‘USA is at war Islam and Moslims and wants to take over the world’, ‘USA is an Enemy of Pakistan’, ‘USA loots Natural Resources of Occupied Countries’, ‘Pakistani Rulers are Slaves of USA’, etc, etc.

  • siddiqui my  On March 29, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Dear AQ Khan
    Do’nt mind or take undue notice of Mr Turkman……there is always a joker in the pack !!
    In a serious forum there should also be lighter moments………………..

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