Attacked: Karachi Naval Base

By: Yasmeen Ali  

As in operation 1/5, in Abbotabad ,the confusing and contradictory news that subsequently emanated, and was fine tuned as we went along,  news released by media about attack on Karachi Naval Base is conflicting, to say the least.

Some channels claim two terrorists are taken captive. Others claim, two blew themselves up, four were killed and two escaped. Some claim five were killed. Some claim one blew himself up. Some channels claim ten military personnel died, others claim the number to be at nine. The operation is claimed to have taken twenty two hours by Duniya Channel. Two P-C3 Orion aircrafts were destroyed and a third damaged in the attack, according to Pakistani officials. The question raised here is, how come it took twenty two hours(or seventeen, as claimed by some), to conduct an operation against only four to six terrorists, this number stated by Interior Minister Malik Rehman in a press conference?

The country stands shaken to the core at the latest episode. Already, many theories are circulating.

Some believe this to be a cascading effect of operation 1/5 with help from the “inside”. A friend wrote to me,

“This has gone on for over 10 hours already. Fighting is still on. Just
10 outsiders and a full PAF/ NAVY base ? It looks like an inside job,
as a building is taken over, hostages taken, two p-3cs destroyed, more
than an enemy from outside could do. Pakistan is under attack, when
will we realize? It is not just one incidence. Enemies within are
winning. Time to put it on CIA, India, Botswana is long gone. Monsters
we created, monsters are destroying us”.

The other theory is that this is all a game plan to discredit the Pakistan intelligence agencies and the army, to further destabilize Pakistan. Another friend has other thoughts,

“Dress Rehearsal, well orchestrated by the “maestros” of Langley! More of these will follow in the near future, and then make an excuse, “sorry your nuclear assets are not safe, hand them over”.

The political pundits have claimed since long, this is the main object.

This attack will reflect ill on the ability of Pakistan to look after their sensitive points and will boil down to the question: Can Pakistan look after her nuclear assets? This will open the door wide open for vested interests to kick ass so far as Pakistan is concerned for labeling it as a country rife with terrorism, a breeding ground for it’s promotion and hiding terrorists.

Mission accomplished? They ask.

(The writer is a lawyer and teaches in a Lahore based university).

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  • Abrar  On May 23, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    I think our forces are rather good at property dealing, marriage bureaus, meter reading and survey ghost schools. When was the last time they made us proud of them. Only in social services (Floods, earth quakes) but not in the core business- wars and defence of motherland….

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    Best Regards,

    M. Abrar Sheikh

  • Mubaschir Inayet  On May 23, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    What kind of defence ability and acumen we have when we can’t foresee and prevent such attacks on army bases?

    What kind of phone tracking equipment we have that cannot trace a call made by Mullah Ahsan of Taliban who claims responsibility? Don’t they foresee a call would be made and be ready?

    Beaten on all counts

    And………….what kind of cowardly Talibaan we have who would rather attack Pak Army than launching such suicidal attacks on US and NATO bases next door in Afghanistan?

    Talibaan are like:

    Khasyaani billee
    khamba nochay!!

    • Amir Rana  On May 23, 2011 at 5:11 pm

      We’ll have to accept a few facts if we really want to solve our problems. These are:

      1. It was not Taliban who started attacks on our army but fact of the matter is that it was exactly the opposite of it. It was Pakistan’s government and military elite who decided to stand with US and NATO instead of defending our own people. No suicidal or other attack was conducted against Pakistan’s amed forces until late 2004 or early 2005. Our government and army continually kept attacking from behind, killing a sizable population of NWFP, forcing millions of them to become refugees in their own country, capturing those who were fighting against moron called US and selling them for petty money.

      2. It is not Taliban or Pakhtoons or Baluchis who are providing logistic support to US and NATO. We, the brave Pakistanis, are doing this again for a little aid or charity or whatever you call it. Most tragic part of it is that the said money is looted by civilian and military elite and there is not even a hunch of it which trickles down to the poor masses.

      3. Our enemies keep on claiming that Taliban and AQ are supported (even created) by our army and agencies while our government (and media of course) keeps on screaming that US is doing it through CIA ilk. Our enemy known what they are doing and against whom they have got together under NATO flag. We on the other hand want to remain in the state of denial by acting upon the instructions of our friendly masked foes and proudly claim to be their strategic allies. Our government, our military elite and our media is full of “Sold Outs” who are protecting the interests of their paymaster. Sincerity with nation or religion is a rarity now-a-days.

      4. After fighting with too many variables (price hike, corruption, injustice and insecurity etc) and going through too many calamities, the common man of Pakistan has been left with no choice but to take extreme measures for survival. Government seems to be nowhere and governance seems to be at rock bottom.

      5. Our army has infact denied to take a stand against monsters who we all know are there to eat us up after weakening our human defense line (the only effective defense line we had since many decades). Instead, our brave soldiers have opted to kill our own people and earn handsome money (at least countable at individual level).

      6. We, as a whole, have forgotten what Iqbal tried to teach us. We are done away with all kinds of Self-Recognition, Self-Respect, Self-Confidence and Self-Reliance. The brain stunning medicines have been injected into us to make us believe that we cannot survive on our own and a LAP is necessary for our security. Once again to add further filth to this garbage can, we chose the wrongest possible LAP back in 1948-49.

      7. The base on which our country got independence, 64 years back, were destroyed during Musharaf regime and even the debris is being blasted in this great era of Zardari. Nationalism was imposed upon us as an alternative to Islam and surely it was not going to work i this country of diverse cultures and ethnic differences. Islam was the only binding force for us which was painted as outdated and those who kept on screaming upon this destruction were labeled as Fundamentalists and Terrorists (or their supporters).

      This is all well planned and time is almost over for us. There is very little hope left for any sort of revival because even at this juncture, we as a whole and out think-tanks in particular are denying to read what is written on the wall in RED.

      • Pak Afghan Analysts  On May 25, 2011 at 2:27 am

        Well presented. Only way Pakistan can be Balkanised is by fanning ethnic hatred among Pakistanis.

        Just as West did that in former Yugoslavia. We need to come together on the basis of Islam, this is our last chance.

      • Nasim Hassan  On May 25, 2011 at 4:06 pm

        We have to carefully examine the following:

        1. Who supplies the sophisticated rocket launchers, plastic explosives to these people? Even a highly educated person cannot manufacture or produce these explosives that kill fifty or more people.

        2. Jehadis or TTP are not technically or educationally capable to co-ordinate such attacks. So there must be insiders who provide them the detailed information about aircrafts and ships.

        When we understand these two things then we should focus on the suppliers and the supporters to disrupt their network.

        It has become a fashion to malign army, establishment and the politicians. All of these people come from within Pakistan. Politicians are elected by the common people. Zardari has been accepted by the Nawaz Shrief, Fazalur Rehman and Asfand Yar Wali and MQM.

        All of these people stay in power but still criticise the government. None of these opposition leaders have no confidence vote in the parliament. So let us all share the blame for our failures with our area of influence and responsibilities.

        Nasim Hassan

  • Zahid Karamat  On May 23, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Good piece!
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  • Inam Khan  On May 23, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Even now if the Govenment and the Nation does not wake up to the realities,we are heading towards doomsday…………………Inam Khan

  • Kathleen Curran  On May 23, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Speaking as an American, totally disgusted with our military aggression and imperial over reach, I would say that the West has their dirty hands all over this. Pakistan is being set up. Albeit with help from within. I’ve seen enough from my country to know that this is the evil way they operate.

    • pakpotpourri2  On May 23, 2011 at 4:23 pm

      Dear Kathleen
      It is Americans like you that restores our faith in this great nation.
      Thank you for the support when my country needs it the most dear friend!
      Yasmeen

  • Pervez  On May 23, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Attack on Naval base in Karachi is the result of the worst intelligence failure and the highest security lapse.There has been two serious terrorist attacks on naval targets in the last two weeks,resulting in a number of deaths of Navy personnel.And yet the Nay was not prepared enough to stop and effectively fight an attack of this dimension on one of its most important and highly sensitive installation.The dammage to the the already blurring image and morale of the Armed forces and the people of Pakistan ,besides the huge material and human losses is collosal.Some one in the Establishment should answer for all
    for this.

    PRR.

    • ID  On May 23, 2011 at 5:08 pm

      Please never forget that thiefs can enter the best the biggest safehouses. And their escapades never determine policy, only the better means to prevent theft and respond with due measures to prevent further thefts and to apprehend them. that’s the case here. Nukes are no child’s play for one and secondly, a thief from within the house/office is difficult to know until the act. In a war, surprises are achieved which can be akin to such acts, but those who surreptitiously act, can only be pursued just as Bin Laden was.
      So worry only for the thieves among us. We are our own worst enemies and demolish our house without any thought for the innocent. The recent dastardly act where 80+ youthful recruits martyred deserves more vigorous condemnation and countermeasures than hitherto flashed. That was infinitely more cruel than this wanton destruction of our prized assets. These madcaps need to be pursued wherever they are with total conviction and singlemindedness. But then where Lal Masjid, Akbar Bugti, missing persons and Baloch disenfranchisement goes unquestioned even after the change of regime, what else can one expect from the perpetrators and the copycats but mindless assault on the sense and stability. Why can’t we ensure like Uncle Sam that “Such rascals can hide, but they cannot run” because we are in serious pursuit of them.
      id
      idrees

      • HH  On May 24, 2011 at 1:04 am

        Yes, and yes. Our powers that be are running with the hares and
        hunting with the hounds. This policy has to go, or we will be gone
        with the wind

  • RAF  On May 23, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    One thing which we are missing out, and, now it’s known that Chinese and American were at the base.
    What were they doing together on those secret assets (P-3’s), it is supposed to be a no no for the American’s.

    RAF

    • Faisal Malik  On May 24, 2011 at 5:17 pm

      if i am not mistaken, ORION’s were bought from the U.S.
      Both the U.S and the Chinese were there at the base to “teach” us with something. just like the ones who were “training” our men till not so long ago.??

  • Bajwa  On May 23, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Another “confusing ” news Mollah Omer has died.Confirmed by some contradicted by others.

  • Salman Abbasy  On May 23, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Two disturbing press reports today indicate spectres looming in the shadows in the Air Force,
    It’s a crisis the military seems to have been grappling with as far back as 2006 as a recent set of U.S. diplomatic cables reveal. Pakistan’s air force was concerned about radicalisation within its ranks and reported acts of petty sabotage of fighter planes deployed for security operations along the Afghan border. A March 2006 cable from the U.S. embassy in Islamabad quotes then Deputy Chief of Air Staff for Operations, Air Vice Marshal Khalid Chaudhry, as saying that the airmen, most of whom came from villages, were being radicalised by extremist Islamic clerics. The cable also says that Chaudhry claimed “to receive reports monthly of acts of petty sabotage, which he interpreted as an effort by Islamists amongst the enlisted ranks to prevent PAF aircraft from being deployed in support of security operations in the Federally Administrated Tribal Areas (FATA) along the Afghan border.” – Reuters
    As well as in the Navy,
    According to eye witnesses reports, the militants acted in a calm and relaxed way, firing at intervals. They appeared to have complete knowledge of the base and frequently changed their position. Very much like the Mumbai attack, the militants were well-equipped with arms, ammunition, food and drink. “It was shown several months ago that the Pakistan navy is vulnerable to Islamists when a marine commando unit official was arrested,” the security official said. “He was a member of the Mehsud tribe from South Waziristan [tribal area] and was completely indoctrinated by militants. Naval Intelligence never shared the information with the ISI [Inter-Services Intelligence] or any other security agency that during interrogation he confessed that militants planned to attack installations during the visit of a foreign delegation. Now, they [intelligence] realize how the organization [navy] is riddled and vulnerable to the influence of militant organizations,” the official said. – Asia Times Online

  • Syeadain Zariff  On May 23, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    The gist of all these kind of fabricated designed and created news is ” Jhoot kay Paaon ” (legs) nahien hootey. Lies have no legs. Secondly all politically conspired and to gain political objectives and please the Masters and fulfilling their motives.

  • Nasir  On May 23, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    One simple question for members on the blog…..WHY are there so many ‘military’
    establishments in densely populated civilian areas ?

    Take Karachi ,for example….when it was a small city these bases were quite far from
    civilan ares. Over the years with rapid urban expansion, why have these not moved far far away
    in their own secure environments.

    One naval base in Karachi has a golf course and entry into that place is very very easy…I am not a member but
    many times I have gone there to play and believe me its not difficult to ‘attack’ that naval base !

    As painful as it may sound, we must ‘learn’ from the Israelis how THEY maintain their security !

  • Shahbaz  On May 23, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    well said

  • Bashir A. Syed  On May 23, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    The current attack in Karachi on Pakistan Naval Base is a SATANIC effort to build up the storm (Judeo-Christian or JC) to get hold of “ATOM” in Pakistan, in spite of the fact that Henry Kissinger gave a gift of more than 400 NUKES to ISRAEL, saying that he believed in “NEVER AGAIN,” Mantra of Zionists. Such a Joint (JC) Effort immediately after Sept. Eleven was reoported by Seymore Hersh, in Atlatic Monthly Magazine of October 29, 2001. Allah has provided us Guidance through Qura’n [Surah Al-Maidah, #5: Ayats 51, 57, and 82] explicitly warn “Believers” about the Hazardsif the Believers accept JC’s as Friends & Protectorts, and in particular #82, the enemosity between J’s annd Pagans (Idol Worshippers like H) will be the worst enemies of Believers.
    Let me clarify a MYTH about FALSE PERCEPTION CREATED BY Enemies of Islam and Muslims by connecting the Dots of Nuclear Terrorism with ISLAM or Muslims, being a PHYSICIST: (1) “NUKES” are not like an ordinary Fire-Crackers, that anyone can use; These weapons require Special Delivery Systems and have Built-in “Safety Fetures,” which makes them inoperative by anyone who does not have a “Secret Code” to Trigger such a weapon.
    (2) Radioactive Materials exist in nature abundantly, and the term known as DIRTY BOMB is a scare tactic only to be directed towards Muslims, forgetting how these folks themselves used to kill a Russian Spy Alexander Litvinenko (who had converted tio Islam) living in London, was found poisoned on November 1, 2006, with commonly-available Alph-particle emitting radio-active material mixed in a drink, killing him three weeks later. There is no limits of SATANIC efforts to disseminate false Propaganda. In this regardtwo things happened (1) A fiction movie by Hollywood to create fear of Dirty Bomb, in which Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison played as one of the actors ( money is friend of the folks in power), and (2) A book “NUCLEAR TERRORISM: The Ultimate Preventable Catastophe,” authored by Graham Allison [published by Owl Books/Henry Holt and Company, New York 2004. ISBN 0-8050-7852-5.] The author is founding Dean of Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government, and Director of Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, who also served as Special Advisor to the Secretary of Defense under President Reagan, and Asst. Sec,. of Defense under Pres. Clinton]. Mr Allison’s heavy-weight credentials were used to have this book published about a monster similar to the one who lived on top of the Green Bean Stalk, ansed Dirty Bombs (containing any Radio-Active material to scare the hell out of Sheeple, who will begin to shit in their pants by reading such a Scary Fairy tale. Hollywood has done a very good job of producing “Terror Movies” to “INDUCE” Terrorism in Society, and sell more “Pop-Corn in Theaters having 3-Dimentional “Surround Sound,” to reproduce terrifying sound effects. .

    B. Syed

  • John Bose  On May 23, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Thnaks for ur article Re attacked karachi naval base,it is interesting to know who did that apparently Pakistani talaban claimed the responsibility for the attack, now question arise here these things never happened or believable before the Islamic laws took place and Pakistan turned in to islamic state I was in Pakistan prior to Islamic laws imposed on us it was a peace in Pakistan every persons were living in harmony now it is unbelievable so these things will be happening as long Islamic rules are place in government it is time to make Pakistan as a secular state it might take long time to educate the Pakistani [people till then suffering will be there in Pakistan looking forward to hear from you. cya john

  • Humayun Raashid  On May 23, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    I recollect well having read a statement of Indian Prime Minister Vajpaee published in our Pakistani newspaper saying,
    “President Musharraf knows that we can hit Pakistan anywhere we want.” The statement makes a lot of sense in today’s scenario…….

    • Humayun Raashid  On May 25, 2011 at 8:34 pm

      I stand corrected. The statement said “President Musharraf
      knows
      that we can hit inside Pakistan, anywhere we want.’

  • Rumana  On May 23, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Even for a minute one believes it was a set up and inside job, can some one please tell me how nukes in this situation are safe, if Pakistan loses it’s nukes it could again be inside job. No one will say ‘hand them over’ they will simply disappear because of inside job. Why does Pakistan need so many nukes when they can not even generate power, and country has load shedding crises?
    The only reason fourth nuclear facility opened up is to make enough weapons so they can be sold to rouge nations when billions stop coming from U.S.
    They whole thought process needs to be realistic people are starving to death and living in worst possible conditions but nukes have become the pride.

    It may feel good to many cursing India, America and Israel because it’s never Pakistan’s fault but from Wkileaks one thing is clear Pakistan’s worst enemy is not India or America it is the government of Pakistan. The people would should protect the land are the ones falling over each other selling every bit of it. (sorry I forgot that is another setup)

    President Reagen once said pointing to himself “buck stops here.” Can Pakistan ever take responsibility for anything.

  • Rumana  On May 23, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Yasmin you have quoted many pundits and other sources including some friends but I am most interested in your personal view. Please tell us what is really happening and who is to blame, and how to fix this.

  • Saeed Baig  On May 24, 2011 at 1:01 am

    Yasmeen,
    It is another sad day for Pakistan. The fact of the matter is that we are totally a mediocre nation. I am appalled at comments offered by a few admirals on the media. They are not worth being corporals in any defense force let alone being on such high pedestals. Pak Army and PAF are not any different. Only conformists are posted to higher ranks. As soon as they are promoted they are given awards of Nishan-e-Imtiaz, Hilal-e-Imtiaz and so on for no apparent reasons and then they shower plots and other perks on them. There is complete vacuum of leadership in the Defense Forces ( not touching the civilians for the time being). Is it not a repeated intelligence failure of the highest magnitude. No one is answerable to no one. Neither the Army chief, nor the Air Chief and this bafoon the Naval Chief have the slightest idea as to what is happening around them. The responsibilities they are shouldering is too big for their boots. If nothing happens in next two weeks they will all start bragging once more (as Musharraf used to do) and life will be as usual once again, till we meet another such disgrace. pardon my frustation.
    SB

  • Ali Kazim  On May 24, 2011 at 1:04 am

    Dear YAA
    Your analysis is irrefutable. Courtesy our masters, the people of Pakistan are in a state of illusions, delusions and confused conclusions.

    PS: I have read all your articulately analysed writings. I very much wanted to express my views, for whatever worth they might be, to solicit your thoughts. However, I have been down with my spinal problem which precluded me from doing so. My best regards.

  • Rizwan  On May 24, 2011 at 1:05 am

    A serious overhaul is needed of all the three services.. This is beyond belief..

    • HH  On May 24, 2011 at 1:06 am

      Yes, but who will bell the cat ???

  • Faisal Imam  On May 24, 2011 at 1:06 am

    it seems this is just the beginning.it seems the agenda of the Armed Forces is not up to the mark.
    The new philosophy of warfare seems to be in operation.no need to ‘invade’;only attack strategic points which put the enemy in total confusion.
    GOOD LUCK.
    Balchy decision-making is creating further problems.

  • Zafar  On May 24, 2011 at 1:07 am

    People in Pakistan’s political and diplomatic brass have been against ISI and Army, following foreign agenda. As long as they are in power and TTP or AQ are willing to die, it will be difficult to control. Drastic changes from system to faces is the only way out. Otherwise…….

  • Atique  On May 24, 2011 at 1:08 am

    The incompetence of this Government reminds me a Dog chasing its tail. What was AAZ and Rehman Malik expecting when they gave Clearance to issue Visas to 2000+ CIA Contractors.
    There were Six of those contractors guiding the terrorist on the Base. TTP is on the payroll of CIA and is paid handsomely by the to destroy Pakistan.

    Wake up Pakistan. Kick the American Contractors out and all this will stop. If you don’t they will bring thbiscountry down like a house of cards.

    AM

    • Rumana  On May 24, 2011 at 1:21 am

      I beg to differ kick Talibans and Al-Qaida out and this will end.

      • Yasmeen Ali  On May 24, 2011 at 3:09 am

        I think that is taking a simplistic view of a complicated situation.

  • Bashir A. Syed  On May 24, 2011 at 3:07 am

    This is result of Selling Pakistan for BOUNTY HUNTING, as per Musharraf’s own Memoirs: ” ” We have captured 672 and handed over 369 to the United States , We have earned bounties totaling millions of Dollars. . ” The Question is: “who in the Hell has those Thousands of Dollars collected from Musrikeen/Munafiqeen by handing over INNOCENT Muslims. MUSH ought to be ashamed of his DEEDS which brought down Pakistan to its kness! He is the Source of all disgrace and Insecurityresulting from his subordination of Yankees like the motto of a U.S. Marine :”Samper Fi” (translation from Latin: Always Obedient/Faithful”) . Pakistanis must DEMAND those Millions of Dollars which MUSH used to buty a Palace next to his Bhai Jan in London. Please don’t forget that Dr. Aafia Siddiqui was kidnaped during MUSH’s reign , for which he received sumptuous Bounty!

    Bashir A. Syed

    • Yasmeen Ali  On May 24, 2011 at 3:12 am

      Blaming one person is not the answer.
      We need to look towards solution, not apportioning blame.
      YAA

  • Abdul Qayyum  On May 24, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Keep up the good work.

  • Arif Khan  On May 24, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Mubasher if this would have happened in the USA , by now all Talibans would have either been killed by “Delta Force”or captured and brought to trial ? Watch “Forensic science” or SWAT (Special Weapons and Tactics) Mexico is out of control but these Jack Asses are afraid to take on the US Security forces as they will be killed Arif

  • Fazlur Rahman Siddiqi  On May 24, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    It appears you are correct. Our incompetent government must be sacked. Gilani & Zardari both are dummies, interested in their own benifits.

    Where are those who were telling that the worst democracy is better than best dictatorship????

    Armed forces of Pakistan must do something (I do not mean to topple the govt.) they are losing their reputation. Failure over a failure (a chain of failures), this creates a doubt in mind if our nuclear assets are safe?

    Please keep your struggle live. All the sensible people are with you.

    Regards,

    F. R. SIDDIQUI

    • pakpotpourri2  On May 24, 2011 at 3:05 pm

      The problems will continue irrespective of changing faces. They are more deep rooted. Economic independence is the key to independent decisions.
      Best
      YAA

  • Sarwer  On May 24, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    The chickens are coming home to roost…whether the US or Indians or other interests perpetrated the incident with or without inside help, fact is they were able to do it with ease and just a few people….so much for our security and the myth of our forces…”The fault Dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves, that we are underlings…”

  • Faisal Malik  On May 24, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    Last i heard was there were Uzbeks and an Afghan involved. All died.

    The way with which whole attack was orchestrated does NOT surely say Taliban anywhere. It has trademark special ops written all over it.

    Its no secret who has made good friends with Uzbeks and Afghans in our neighboring country.

    the fake Taliban never go after equipment (assets). they are more involved in blowing bodies.

    it wasn’t Osama’s revenge either. as it would take a long and thorough approach (with months involved to get familiar with how to conduct it etc).

    Orion’s gave us the little edge over hindu india in naval warfare.

    India cried sour milk over U.S selling us these p-c3’s.

    on the other hand, U.S is always threatening us by patting Hindu India’s back.

    there is only one approach which is going to guarantee the silence of these “lambs”.

    the full “support” of armed struggle of independence in both the Indian occupied kashmir, as well as U.S occupied Afghanistan.

    • pakpotpourri2  On May 25, 2011 at 12:55 am

      What you say Faisal, surprisingly, is what I was told by a senior political analyst too, after this article came out.
      YAA

  • Laila  On May 25, 2011 at 1:19 am

    FIR lodged: Discrepancies emerge between police report and navy statements
    Published: May 24, 2011

    Irregularities in the police FIR and navy chief’s statement emerge. PHOTO: AFP/NNI
    KARACHI: Karachi Police have registered a criminal case against the unidentified terrorists that attacked PNS Mehran late Sunday night. However, contrary to earlier statements by the PN chief, the FIR puts the number of terrorists between 10 and12.
    Navy chief Admiral Nauman Bashir had earlier claimed in his press conference that all terrorists had been killed.
    Interior Minister Rehman Malik too had maintained that four of the terrorists had been killed while two had managed to escape. This effectively puts the number of attackers to be no more than six.
    The FIR has been registered at the Shahrah-e-Faisal police station.
    The FIR contains the statement of Lt Irfan claiming between 10 to 12 terrorists had scaled the eastern wall to infiltrate the base.
    The FIR also states that 10 security personnel and four terrorists were killed in the attack. While the FIR makes no mention of what happened to the other accused listed in the FIR.
    The FIR states four Kalashnikovs, ten grenades, two suicide jackets, one rocket launcher and a lot of ammunition was seized.
    The bodies of the terrorists have been sent to Jinnah Hospital where an autopsy has been conducted. The report will be issued in a few days.
    FROM EXPRESS TRIBUNE PK

  • Freda Shah  On May 25, 2011 at 1:35 am

    Repeated enemy incursions inside our territory prove that our military is not adequately prepared to pre-empt such stealth attacks.
    Better training and discipline among the rank and file, and a more efficient and competent cadre at managerial, supervisory and decision-making levels cannot be emphasised enough.
    Also, contingency planning to deal with all possible manner of surprise and shock enemy attacks is vital. There are clearly many lacunae in the system that need to be addressed urgently.
    The all-pervading complacency is too evident. This country is in deep trouble. We must all wake up.

  • Rizwan  On May 25, 2011 at 1:36 am

    The simple fact is that we are an over bloated 3rd world army which is high on previous exploits and veils of religious zeal. A Stalin type purge is required of the armed forces that will rid us of the free loaders, those who flash their pressed khakis for free lunches. Emphasis must be given to Special forces. Further development of task forces of highly trained men must be formed that can take the fight to the enemy.

  • Iltifat Lone  On May 25, 2011 at 10:50 am

    I think we need leaders with MORAL Character, the Naval Chief and the personal responsible for this security lapse and the loss of Pakistan arsenal should be made responsible and punished accordingly.Accountability is badly required. At least we may start from here.

    • pakpotpourri2  On May 25, 2011 at 11:13 am

      Agree completely. To make someone responsible,the culprits must be caught first!
      YAA

  • A Malik  On May 25, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    Nasim
    ‘Islamic” reach has found haven in the hearts of many a defence personnel. But not to carry out actions as the case of PNS Mehran. Eliminating despotics like musharraf and many like in the helm may be viewed favourably but not as a generl rule. TTP never has attacked assets – only the soft targets. That the TTP has claimed the action – how does one confirm whether or not the message is from the TTP? Even though this out fit is not operating congruent to that of mullah umar’s raising suspicion that its existence is attributed as a handi work of the CIA/RAW. We have to find Mulla umer to speak to. Either he owns TTP or disowns it. Either of the case we be sure as also those who harbour soft corner for the TTP. Our response will then accordingly b clear.
    am

    • Nasim Hassan  On May 25, 2011 at 4:07 pm

      I agree with your anaysis. Talibans perhaps were the right kind of rulers for impoverished people of Afghanistan. After Soviet Union invasion, the small educated ruling elite took asylum in Europe and the USA. They never went back. I know a large number of Afghani people on the US east coast.

      So the country was left with masses of poor and illiterate and war lords. These war lords who belonged to various groups destroyed the country while the US and Europeans left giving UNO a few million dollars to handle the mess.

      Based on what I read and know the Talibans brought a relative peace and security. We should not expect a madrassah educated person to pass a PhD examination of International relations.

      Nasim Hassan

  • Bajwa  On May 25, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Funding religious elements to fight against Soviets was a bad idea.Pakistan and American troops should have done that job.

    P roping Taliban was carrying that joke too far.

    Taliban should have played it cool, religiously, strategically and tactically. Many small states have done it in the past, most notably the Swiss during Napoleonic Wars. Burma has pursued a low profile policy.

    To enlist Osama’s support was stupid, to expect Pakistan to support Taliban against Americans was more so. Even whatever Pakistan did for Taliban has turned out to be suicidal. Taliban will always remain a liability even if you put them on the Kabul throne again. They have highly exaggerated notion about themselves. Their advisors and sympathizers have been bad friends. May be their friends had the same illusions.

    MAB

    • Nasim Hassan  On May 26, 2011 at 1:04 am

      Every one becomes smart after the game is over. The plain fact is that people like me would be the first one to leave the area where chaos endangers the life and property. The ruling class does not come from the sky. In Pakistan feudals, military and bureaucracy have been ruling since its inception.

      Similarly Talibans were the most organized force supported by the Maulanas like Samiul Haque came on top. So when the USA and NATO quits then Talibans or something like them would emerge again. During thirty years of war there are only two classes left. The first few are the American supported people Karzai and the rest are poor, illiterate masses. What do you expect from them?

      Alternative is that America and NATO should stay there for fifty years with vision and good intentions. Educate masses, build infra-structure, start some industry for employment. A new generation of educated Afghans will change the destiny of Afghanistan.

      Would that happen?

      Nasim Hassan

      • Bajwa  On May 26, 2011 at 1:05 am

        Many said this at “that time”.

  • Portugheis Alberto  On May 26, 2011 at 1:06 am

    It is not the “funding” of religious elements. It is that religious fanatics are easier to brainwash.

    Taliban “played it cool”. and made LOTS of money. Just as the Swiss, the No.1 warmongers. Being neutral, they can support both sides of any conflict.

  • Amir Rana  On May 26, 2011 at 1:06 am

    If one thinks about an ideal situation, then Alberto’s approach is theoretically right. Most of his analysis regarding wars and game behind the scene is also correct (or almost correct). BUT the solution he offers is highly impracticable. Can we convince the whole world to dismantle the arm factories and all the countries to dilute their armies at the same time? No, it is not possible. It has never happened during 4000 years of known (or partially known) history of this world. As they say, attack is the best defense in most of the situations. When the beast knows he will face resistence upto the last drop of blood, it normally steps back. This is the only way for weaker nations like us to come out of the situation w are currently in. Once we are out of it, the whole focus should be shifted towards strengthening our systems and institutions. Corruption should be curbed with iron hand and provision of basic necessities of life (including food, health and education) should be ensured. Army should be given a clear message to do their professional duty and their way towards power game should be blocked once and for all. This is of course a long term evolutionary process which needs to be stemmed out of a calculated a revolution. This would all be possible when we decide to stand up and say NO to any charity, aid or friendship which has pushed us into the ditch of slavery. A bird can only plan his flight route once he gets out of the cage first.

    • Portugheis Alberto  On May 26, 2011 at 1:07 am

      Amir,

      You say the whole focus should be shifted towards strengthening our systems and institutions” USA has had very strong systems and institutions for a long time. Look at the mess the country is in, the many wars they are involved in, the many young Americans who stupidly die just because a small Elite want to be filthy rich.

      You say “Corruption should be curbed”, USA and many European countries have had very strong systems and institutions for a long time and they have plenty of corrupted people.

      Firstly, we need very talented economists who will devise a plan to minimize the effect of suddenly creating mass un-employment, through closing weapon factories and dismantling Armed Forces.

      But it can be done, by international agreement and Laws. When the Sha of Persia decided to modernize Iran and allowed people to drink alcohol, wine, beer and other beverages were immediately available for people to enjoy. Came Ayatollah Khomeini, made alcohol illegal and that was it. We can do the same with weapons.

      You talk about weapons as a deterrent. Should I give a gun to each of my children in case one attacks the other?

  • S.U.Turkman  On May 26, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Thanks for letting us know, Pak Generals used to be in US Army and they have been implanted in Pakistan. I didn’t say, without Charity of Aid and Loans Pakistan would go bankrupt in 2 years.
    I would say, Pakistan would be out of Foreign Exchange Reserves of $ 16 or 17 billions within less than 2 years or may be in 18 months because Pakistan imports are $ 1 billion a month higher than Foreign Exchange Earnings and if Pak Army goes for another Mumbai Attacks kind of thing, India would end Pakistan a lot before if USA does not stop her this 5th time but then, if Pak Army does not backstabbing USA through her Taliban, it could be bombed to Stone Age by USA causing dis-integration of Pakistan before this year ends. Got it …!

  • Bajwa  On May 26, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    GOP should ponder over Riaz Mohammad’s speech in Institute of International Relations, Karachi (reported for Dawn by Huma Youssaf) in which he has said that Pakistan should accept the new realities of globalization and focus on economic development.

    All Defense Committee needed to say was stop patronizing the religious lot.

    • sarwar sukhera  On May 26, 2011 at 3:22 pm

      Bajwa Saheb,
      You always speak so rationally and I admire you for that. I only wish you would write for some Urdu daily in Pakistan. Thats where such pragmatic approach to our national problems needs to be propagated.

  • Shaikh Mohammad  On May 27, 2011 at 1:26 am

    It is my view that Pakistan Army has already sold the country to USA.
    Wake up Pakistanis and realise that your enemy is Pakistan Army.
    Rise against General Kayani.

    shaikh Mohommad

  • Faisal Imam  On May 27, 2011 at 3:51 am

    Naval Station.CID headquarters etc.etc.
    meeting in Islamabad;puppetry;name a single well-read on warfare except the Uniformed.name a single person on the table who could talk about Pakistan properly;who has seen all the regions ,terrain,background of the nation and can talk about it intelligently?
    A collection of sub-standards hand chosen by M and gang.The outsiders have moved in and are active.even the realisation is not there.are your embassies active in how many capitals?,are your people talking to various govts officially and unofficially?are alternative modalities being worked out?do we see us out of trouble in the near or distant future?is the game-plan complete or are we going to sing along with every incident?

  • Blithering Idiots  On May 31, 2011 at 1:31 am

    That is a super-peachy-keen post. Thanks for really blathering on like that! Seriously, I don’t think I could have spent more effort wishing for something heavy to fall on me to erase that nonsense from my mind!

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