Reversing the Lens on Pakistan

Common Ground on US Withdrawal

By:  CONN HALLINAN
“Terrorism is not a statistic for us.”
—Asif Ali Zardari, president of Pakistan
This is a Pakistani truism that few Americans understand. Since the U.S. invaded Afghanistan in October 2001, Pakistan has lost more than 35,000 people, the vast bulk of them civilians. While the U.S. has had slightly over 1800 soldiers killed in the past 10 years, Pakistan has lost over 5,000 soldiers and police. The number of suicide bombings in Pakistan has gone from one before 2001, to more than 335 since.
For most Americans, Pakistan is a two-faced “ally” playing a double game in Central Asia, all while siphoning off tens of billions of dollars in aid. For Pakistanis, the spillover from the Afghan war has cost Islamabad approximately of $100 billion. And this is in a country with a yearly GDP of around $175 billion, and whose resources have been deeply strained by two years of catastrophic flooding.
Washington complains that its $20.7 billion in aid over the past nine years has bought it very little in the way of loyalty from Islamabad, while Pakistan points out that U.S. aid makes up less than 0.3 percent of Pakistan’s yearly GDP, what Zahid Hussain, author of a book on Islamic militants, says comes out to “the price of a six-inch personal-size pizza with no extra toppings from Pizza Hut” for each Pakistani. In any case, much of the civilian aid—the bulk, $14.2 billion, goes to the military—has yet to be disbursed.
Both countries’ opinions of one another are almost mirror images: According to a U.S. poll, 74 percent of Americans do not consider Pakistan to be an ally, while the Pew Research Center found that six in 10 Pakistanis consider the Americans an “enemy,” and only 12 Percent have a favorable view of the U.S.
How did this happen? In part the answer is mistakes and misjudgments by both countries that date back to the 1979-89 Russian occupation. But at its heart is an American strategy that not only runs counter to Pakistan’s interests, but will make ending the war in Afghanistan a far more painful procedure than it need be.
If Pakistan is a victim in the long running war, it is not entirely an innocent one. Pakistan, along with the U.S., was an ally of the anti-Communist, right wing Mujahideen during the 1980s Afghan war.
Pakistan’s interest in Afghanistan has always been multi-faceted. Islamabad is deeply worried that its traditional enemy, India, will gain a foothold in Afghanistan, thus essentially surrounding Pakistan. This is not exactly paranoid, as Pakistan has fought—and lost—three wars with India, and tensions between the two still remain high.
Over the past six years, India has conducted 10 major military exercises along the Pakistani border, the latest—Viajyee Bhava (Be Victorious)—involved 20,000 troops and what New Delhi military spokesman S.D. Goswaim called “sustained massed mechanized maneuvers.” Pakistan is the only potential enemy in the region that “massed” armored formations could be aimed at. India has the world’s fourth largest army, Pakistan’s the 15th.
By aligning itself with Washington during its Cold War competition with the Soviets in Afghanistan, Islamabad had the inside track to buy high performance American military hardware to help it offset India’s numerical superiority. Indeed, it did manage to purchase some F-16s fighter-bombers.
But in Central Asia, what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. When Pakistan allied itself with the Taliban, India aligned itself with the Northern Alliance composed of Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras, who opposed the Pashtun-dominated Taliban. Pashtuns are a plurality in Afghanistan’s complex mix of ethnicities, and traditionally they dominated the Kabul government.
Islamabad has always been deeply concerned about the Pashtuns, because the ethnic group makes up some 15 percent of Pakistan’s population, and Pashtuns do not recognize the colonial period border—the so-called Durand Line—that forms the current boundary between the two countries. A long-time fear of Islamabad is that Pakistani Pashtuns could ally themselves to Afghani Pashtuns and form a breakaway country that would fragment Pakistan.
From Islamabad’s point of view, the American demand that it corral the Taliban and the Haqqani Group that operate from mountainous Northwest Frontier and Federally Administrated Tribal Areas of Pakistan might stir up Pashtun nationalism, one of those things that goes bump in the night for most Pakistanis. In any case, the task would be beyond the capabilities of the Pakistan military. In 2009, the Pakistani Army used two full divisions just to reclaim the Swat Valley from local militants, a battle that cost billions of dollars, generated two million refugees, and inflicted heavy casualties.
Current U.S. strategy has exacerbated Pakistan’s problem by putting the Northern Alliance in power, excluding the Pashtuns from any meaningful participation, and targeting the ethnic group’s heartland in Southern and Eastern Afghanistan. According to Hussain, this has turned the war into a “Pashtun war,” and meant, “The Pashtuns in Pakistan would become…strongly allied with both al Qaeda and the Taliban.”
The U.S has also remained silent while India moved aggressively into Afghanistan. On Oct. 4, Kabul and New Delhi inked a “strategic partnership” which, according to the New York Times, “paves the way for India to train and equip Afghan security forces.” The idea of India training Afghan troops is the equivalent of waving a red flag to see if the Pakistani bull will charge.
One pretext for the agreement was the recent assassination of Burhanuddin Rabbani, head of the Afghan High Peace Council, whom the Karzai government claims was killed by the Taliban under the direction of the Pakistani secret service, the ISI. But evidence linking the Taliban or Pakistan to the hit is not persuasive, and the Taliban and Haqqani Group—never shy about taking the credit for killing people—say they had nothing to do with it.
Pakistan’s ISI certainly maintains a relationship with the Afghan-based Taliban and the Haqqani Group, but former Joint Chiefs of Staff head, Admiral Mike Mullen’s charge that the latter are a “veritable arm” of Pakistan’s ISI is simply false. The Haqqanis come from the powerful Zadran Gaum Pushtun tribe based in Paktia and Khost provinces in Afghanistan, and North Wazirstan in Pakistan’s Tribal Area. It was one of the most effective military groupings in the war with the Russians, and is certainly the most dangerous group of fighters in the current war.
When their interests coincide the Haqqanis find common ground with Islamabad, but the idea that Pakistan can get anyone in that region to jump to attention reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of the deeply engrained cultural and ethnic currents that have successfully rebuffed outsiders for thousands of years. And in the border region, the Pakistan Army is as much an outsider as is NATO.
There a way out of this morass, but it will require a very different strategy than the one the U.S. is currently following, and one far more attuned to the lens through which most Pakistanis view the war in Afghanistan.
First, the U.S. and its allies must stand down their military offensive—including the drone attacks—against the Taliban and Haqqani Group, and negotiate a ceasefire.
Second, the U.S. must open immediate talks with the various insurgency groups and declare a plan for the withdrawal of all foreign troops. The Taliban—the Haqqanis say they will follow the organization’s lead—has indicated they will no longer insist on a withdrawal of troops before opening talks, but they do want a timetable.
Third, recognition that any government in Kabul must reflect the ethnic make-up of the country.
Fourth, Pakistan’s concerns over Indian influence need to be addressed, including the dangerous issue of Kashmir. President Obama ran on a platform that called for dealing with Kashmir, but subsequently dropped it at the insistence of New Delhi. The issue needs to be put back on the table. The next dust-up between Pakistan and India could go nuclear, which would be a catastrophe of immeasurable proportions.
Pakistan and the U.S. may have profoundly different views of one another, but at least one issue they agree: slightly over 90 percent of Pakistanis would like U.S. troops to go home, and 62 percent of Americans want an immediate cut in U.S. forces. Common ground in this case seems to be based on a strong dose of common sense.
NOTE:This is a cross post.
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  • S U Turkman  On October 30, 2011 at 6:03 am

    My comments have been inserted below in the above article reproduced.
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    This is a Pakistani truism that few Americans understand. Since the U.S. invaded Afghanistan in October 2001, Pakistan has lost more than 35,000 people, the vast bulk of them civilians.
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    TURKMAN: But USA has not killed 35,000 Pakistanis. Only a thousand or less Taliban have been attacked by USA in Self Defense through Drones or inside Afghanistan. Pakistan Army has killed rest of Pakistanis through its irregular Army of Taliban and other JehaaDi Groups and most of the dead have been minorities of Pakistan, not ruling Punjabis, the Ethnicity of Pakistan Army that being a minority itself of 44% of Pakistan’s population, believes in ‘Divide and Rule’ Doctrine. .
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    While the U.S. has had slightly over 1800 soldiers killed in the past 10 years, Pakistan has lost over 5,000 soldiers and police. The number of suicide bombings in Pakistan has gone from one before 2001, to more than 335 since.
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    TURKMAN: Correct. But Pakistan Army is 95% Punjabi and 90% of those 5,000 Soldiers have been Non Punjabis. Usually Pathans. 5% dead Punjabis have been only Collateral Damage.
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    For most Americans, Pakistan is a two-faced “ally” playing a double game in Central Asia, all while siphoning off tens of billions of dollars in aid. For Pakistanis, the spillover from the Afghan war has cost Islamabad approximately of $100 billion.
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    TURKMAN: “Spillover” created by Pakistan Army. If it has cost this much money, how come Pakistan that used to never have more than $ 2 billion in Foreign Exchange Reserves before 2001, has $ 17 billion in Reserves and how come Pakistan had fastest GDP and Per Capita Income growth of the world from 2002 to 2007? How come Pak Foreign Exchange Earnings have more than tripled since 2002 unless, because of Export Concessions that USA has gotten Pakistan from her Allies? Where the hell has Foreign Exchange starving Pakistan that could not reach even $ 1 billion in Foreign Exchange Reserves for a decade before 2001 lost $ 100 billion? It proves, this propaganda of Beggar Pakistan is just a ploy to get more Charity of Aid from USA and her Allies. Nothing else.
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    And this is in a country with a yearly GDP of around $175 billion, and whose resources have been deeply strained by two years of catastrophic flooding.
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    TURKMAN: Yeah and we know, before verbally agreeing to co-operate with USA, Pakistan’s GDP was $ 55 billion and Per Capita Income was $ 551 and now its about $ 1100 because of US Aid, Loans and Export Concessions that have created millions of new jobs in export-oriented sector of Economy.
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    Washington complains that its $20.7 billion in aid over the past nine years has bought it very little in the way of loyalty from Islamabad, while Pakistan points out that U.S. aid makes up less than 0.3 percent of Pakistan’s yearly GDP, …
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    TURKMAN: Right but compared to what was Pak GDP, it has been 1% of Pak GDP. What about the Charity of Aid Pakistan received from US Allies because of USA’s push? Did that Allah had caused pouring of that Charity from Sky? Add it all together its more than 2% of the GDP and then what about Export Concessions? Have not they been an average yearly increase of 9% in Pak GDP? So, the total average yearly increase in GDP after 2001 has been actually 13% of GDP and this is why Pakis riding even Donkeys have a Mobile/Cell Phone now.
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    … what Zahid Hussain, author of a book on Islamic militants, says comes out to “the price of a six-inch personal-size pizza with no extra toppings from Pizza Hut” for each Pakistani. In any case, much of the civilian aid—the bulk, $14.2 billion, goes to the military—has yet to be disbursed.
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    TURKMAN: If so, tell us the reasons for record breaking growth of Pak Economy then …!
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    Both countries’ opinions of one another are almost mirror images: According to a U.S. poll, 74 percent of Americans do not consider Pakistan to be an ally, while the Pew Research Center found that six in 10 Pakistanis consider the Americans an “enemy,” and only 12 Percent have a favorable view of the U.S.
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    TURKMAN: Well, Islam teaches all Moslims that Non Moslims are their Enemies so, what’s the big surprise there?
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    How did this happen? In part the answer is mistakes and misjudgments by both countries that date back to the 1979-89 Russian occupation. But at its heart is an American strategy that not only runs counter to Pakistan’s interests, but will make ending the war in Afghanistan a far more painful procedure than it need be.
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    TURKMAN: No there have been no mis-judgment by blackmailing, backstabbing Beggar Pakistan. Misjudgment part remains on USA’s side completely. Pakistanis JehaaDi Army knows, what its doing.
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    If Pakistan is a victim in the long running war, it is not entirely an innocent one. Pakistan, along with the U.S., was an ally of the anti-Communist, right wing Mujahideen during the 1980s Afghan war.
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    TURKMAN: No Pakistan is beneficiary of US Invasion of Afghanistan just like it was beneficiary of Afghanistan turning Communist because Pakistan Economy grew a lot during 1980 and 1990 and then from 2002 till now. There was hardly any growth between 1991 and 2001 and Pakistan was a Foreign Exchange starving country during this period. Proof is, Pakistan has been still crying with Tears that USA had left Pakistan high and dry after Soviet Pull Out because had stopped giving her the Charity she was giving because of Afghan JehaaD against USSR. Pakistan Military, the ruler of Pakistan upfront or from behind the curtain of Staged Democracy loves war-like situation in Afghanistan because it has always made her get more US Charity. Economic Data does not lie.
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    Pakistan’s interest in Afghanistan has always been multi-faceted. Islamabad is deeply worried that its traditional enemy, India, will gain a foothold in Afghanistan, thus essentially surrounding Pakistan. This is not exactly paranoid, as Pakistan has fought—and lost—three wars with India, and tensions between the two still remain high.
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    TURKMAN: Oh yeah, India never had any ‘foot hold’ in Afghanistan and Afghanistan was never an Enemy of Pakistan before though Afghanistan was the only country that had voted against Pakistan’s membership of UNO at her birth as a nation. Pakistan has lost 3 wars against India but don’t tell this to Pakistanis because they think they have always won and they still celebrate their defeats, on of them, 6th of September (1965 war). The Question is, why crazy Pakistan had attacked India covertly in 1965, had gone to war with majority of population of Pakistanis in 1971 and why it had attacked independent free state of Kashmir without any provocation just because its Ruler was a Hindu to have wars started with India?
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    Over the past six years, India has conducted 10 major military exercises along the Pakistani border, the latest—Viajyee Bhava (Be Victorious)—involved 20,000 troops and what New Delhi military spokesman S.D. Goswaim called “sustained massed mechanized maneuvers.” Pakistan is the only potential enemy in the region that “massed” armored formations could be aimed at. India has the world’s fourth largest army, Pakistan’s the 15th.
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    TURKMAN: You are writing, what ISI told you but according to Institute of Strategic Studies, India has 3rd largest Army of the world, not 4th and Pakistan is 7th, not 15th. The 15th is Thailand with 307,000 Troops. The Problem is, Pakistan Military thinks its stronger than not only Indian but also US Army or why else it would keep terrorizing India and USA both at the same time? You see, Pak Military believes, modern Wars are won by JehaaDi Sneak Attack Terrorism and it is the largest and most advanced in this. Since it has become a Cardinal Sin to nuke any country, not only that USA but also India can not dare to nuke Pak Military and it has to take advantage of that. On the other hand Pak Military knows, it can then nuke Israel and India immediately if Nukes were used against it. USA has to understand, where Pak JehaaDi Military is coming from.
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    By aligning itself with Washington during its Cold War competition with the Soviets in Afghanistan, Islamabad had the inside track to buy high performance American military hardware to help it offset India’s numerical superiority. Indeed, it did manage to purchase some F-16s fighter-bombers.

    But in Central Asia, what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. When Pakistan allied itself with the Taliban, India aligned itself with the Northern Alliance composed of Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras, who opposed the Pashtun-dominated Taliban.
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    TURKMAN: When the hell this had happened? Why the hell Tajik President was in Islamabad increasing trade ties with Pakistan? The fact is, they are not allied with India. They are member of Russian Commonwealth and have a Defense Pact with Russia, sorry to refute your General Knowledge, but why would they be scared of Pakistan and Taliban despite that and would run to India for help on other side of Pakistan?
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    Pashtuns are a plurality in Afghanistan’s complex mix of ethnicities, and traditionally they dominated the Kabul government.
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    TURKMAN: No they are not. They are only 40% of Afghanistan’s population but the largest ethnic group just like Punjabis in Pakistan. Majority of Afghans hate Pashtuns just like majority of Pakistanis hate Punjabis.
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    Islamabad has always been deeply concerned about the Pashtuns, because the ethnic group makes up some 15 percent of Pakistan’s population, and Pashtuns do not recognize the colonial period border—the so-called Durand Line—that forms the current boundary between the two countries. A long-time fear of Islamabad is that Pakistani Pashtuns could ally themselves to Afghani Pashtuns and form a breakaway country that would fragment Pakistan.
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    TURKMAN: And Afghanistan has not withdrawn claim over its part of Pakistan that Pakistan had usurped right after being declared a Dominion country by the British in 1947. NWF Province now called PakhToon Khwah is a Pakistan Occupied land and was never given to Pakistan by the British just like Baluchistan, Bahwalpur, Kashmir and the land Pakistan calls Northern Territories etc.
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    From Islamabad’s point of view, the American demand that it corral the Taliban and the Haqqani Group that operate from mountainous Northwest Frontier and Federally Administrated Tribal Areas of Pakistan might stir up Pashtun nationalism, one of those things that goes bump in the night for most Pakistanis.
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    TURKMAN: Its a lie because backing of its Mercenaries, Taliban, who have been slaughtering PushToons of Pakistan and Afghanistan, Punjabi Pak Military has created hate against itself on both sides of Pak-Afghan Border. The Real reason is, Taliban are Irregular Pakistan Army Commando Units. Is not a country supposed to be responsible for its people, who attack a neighboring country? Tell us Constitution of which country in the world permits, Non Government Militia? Which countries except for Sudan and Pakistan have such Militias backed by their Military?
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    In any case, the task would be beyond the capabilities of the Pakistan military. In 2009, the Pakistani Army used two full divisions just to reclaim the Swat Valley from local militants, a battle that cost billions of dollars, generated two million refugees, and inflicted heavy casualties.
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    TURKMAN: A lie. Pak Military had ordered Taliban to take over those regions and that had caused people to flee because they had not wanted their Daughters raped and Shriyaa Law imposed on them. Are you saying 700,000 Strong Pak Military can not control just a few thousand Taliban for 10 long years, while 90,000 Soldiers of it could control whole rebellion in East Pakistan or half of Pakistan’s population within a couple of days? Who the hell are you kidding? All Pakistanis know, Taliban are on Pak Miliitary’s Pay Roll but not Obama.
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    Current U.S. strategy has exacerbated Pakistan’s problem by putting the Northern Alliance in power, excluding the Pashtuns from any meaningful participation, and targeting the ethnic group’s heartland in Southern and Eastern Afghanistan. According to Hussain, this has turned the war into a “Pashtun war,” and meant, “The Pashtuns in Pakistan would become…strongly allied with both al Qaeda and the Taliban.”
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    TURKMAN: Oh yeah, yeah and this is why Northern Alliance Presidential Candidate has lost 2 Elections in Afghanistan and PushToon, Karzai has won even though USA had told him not to run in last Elections. The Lie spread by ISI to keep telling 15% of its population, the PushToons that Afghan Government has been discriminating against their PashTun Brothers in Afghanistan and Tajiks are in power.
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    The U.S has also remained silent while India moved aggressively into Afghanistan. On Oct. 4, Kabul and New Delhi inked a “strategic partnership” which, according to the New York Times, “paves the way for India to train and equip Afghan security forces.” The idea of India training Afghan troops is the equivalent of waving a red flag to see if the Pakistani bull will charge.
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    TURKMAN: Even USA’s training of Afghan Troops was evil according to Pak Military because Afghans should not have any Army to defend their country from Pakistanis called Taliban and Pak Army disguised as Taliban so, when USA leaves, the so called ‘Afghan Taliban’, who have not won a single seat in assembly of Afghanistan in last 2 Elections could take over that country. May we ask, if Baby Pakistan is scared of Indian Influence from population of less than 1/7th size of Pakistan because she worries about her security and actually loves Afghanistan so much and wants to enhance her influence, what had Pakistan done for Afghans during 5 year rule of Afghanistan through Taliban besides slaughtering Afghans? Why has not Pakistan ever offered any help to Afghans that India, Russia, USA, China and Allies of USA have in rebuilding Afghanistan? Why the greatest Army of the world, Pak Military never thought of training Afghan Army?
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    One pretext for the agreement was the recent assassination of Burhanuddin Rabbani, head of the Afghan High Peace Council, whom the Karzai government claims was killed by the Taliban under the direction of the Pakistani secret service, the ISI. But evidence linking the Taliban or Pakistan to the hit is not persuasive, and the Taliban and Haqqani Group—never shy about taking the credit for killing people—say they had nothing to do with it. Pakistan’s ISI certainly maintains a relationship with the Afghan-based Taliban and the Haqqani Group, but former Joint Chiefs of Staff head, Admiral Mike Mullen’s charge that the latter are a “veritable arm” of Pakistan’s ISI is simply false. The Haqqanis come from the powerful Zadran Gaum Pushtun tribe based in Paktia and Khost provinces in Afghanistan, and North Wazirstan in Pakistan’s Tribal Area. It was one of the most effective military groupings in the war with the Russians, and is certainly the most dangerous group of fighters in the current war.
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    TURKMAN; Yeah, yeah. It was Conspiracy to defame saintly Pak Military by USA or India just like 9/11, 7/7, Madrid Train Bombings, Kenyan Embassy Bombing, USS Coal Attack, Kabul Indian Embassy Bombing, US Embassy Bombing, Bali Bombing, Marriott Islamabad Bombing and Mumbai Bombings. Saintly pious JehaaDis, Taliban and their Haqqani Groups are only Volunteer Social Worker’s Organizations that have never ever even touched a Pistol in their lives.
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    When their interests coincide the Haqqanis find common ground with Islamabad, but the idea that Pakistan can get anyone in that region to jump to attention reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of the deeply engrained cultural and ethnic currents that have successfully rebuffed outsiders for thousands of years. And in the border region, the Pakistan Army is as much an outsider as is NATO.
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    TURKMAN: Oh sure, sure but are not Central Asian countries the same Moslim people with same culture? How come only Afghanistan, where Pak Military has been interfering constantly since her birth has this situation?
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    There a way out of this morass, but it will require a very different strategy than the one the U.S. is currently following, and one far more attuned to the lens through which most Pakistanis view the war in Afghanistan.

    First, the U.S. and its allies must stand down their military offensive—including the drone attacks—against the Taliban and Haqqani Group, and negotiate a ceasefire.
    Second, the U.S. must open immediate talks with the various insurgency groups and declare a plan for the withdrawal of all foreign troops. The Taliban—the Haqqanis say they will follow the organization’s lead—has indicated they will no longer insist on a withdrawal of troops before opening talks, but they do want a timetable.
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    TURKMAN: Ceasefire? Where the war is and where is the Front Line to hold Ceasefire? Sneak Attack Terrorism is regular war? Who was USA Drone Attacking before 2003, when Pak Military had started infiltrating Pakistanis called Taliban in to Afghanistan? Why doesn’t Pakistan Military backs down and orders its Mercenaries to stop Sneak Attacking first? Why Taliban would negotiate less than surrender of Afghanistan to them, when this is what Pak Military wants? Why should USA negotiate with Pak Military Mercenaries instead of their Mother Pak Army that pays their Salaries and has been arming them since 1994?
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    Third, recognition that any government in Kabul must reflect the ethnic make-up of the country.
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    TURKMAN: Is Afghanistan a part of Pakistan that USA should listen to this Pakistani demand? How come Punjabi Pak Military, Police, Government Servants, Employees of Government Owned Industries do not have to reflect the same, what is being demanded by Pakistan? What evidence is there that Afghanistan does not have all this already?
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    Fourth, Pakistan’s concerns over Indian influence need to be addressed, including the dangerous issue of Kashmir. President Obama ran on a platform that called for dealing with Kashmir, but subsequently dropped it at the insistence of New Delhi. The issue needs to be put back on the table. The next dust-up between Pakistan and India could go nuclear, which would be a catastrophe of immeasurable proportions.
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    TURKMAN: Why not Obama just bomb the hell of Pak Military and dis-integrate World JehaaDi Training Camp, Pakistan instead to solve the Kashmir, Taliban and Worldwide Terrorism Problem for good, instead?
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    Pakistan and the U.S. may have profoundly different views of one another, but at least one issue they agree: slightly over 90 percent of Pakistanis would like U.S. troops to go home, and 62 percent of Americans want an immediate cut in U.S. forces. Common ground in this case seems to be based on a strong dose of common sense.
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    TURKMAN: Yeah but no Americans and Non Moslims of the world want Pakistan Military to keep training JehaaDi Sneak Attack Terrorists in its Camps that Pak Military claims, they do not exist.
    This so called ‘Foreign Policy Analyst’ is on ISI Pay Roll for a while

  • Faisal Imam  On November 6, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    A member of the APC stated that the war in Afghanistan can be finished provided the Pakistan Army decided to do it.
    we are responsible for the Americans being in Afghanistan.we have to take responsibility of all losses of the Pakistani people because we support the Taliban who have caused extreme damage to the people.

    • S U Turkman  On November 6, 2011 at 8:57 pm

      “Only 1400 of our people have been killed by USA”.
      This is the statement of Mollaa Zaeef, Ambassador of Molaa Omar Government in Islamabad a few weeks about defeat of his Government in Afghanistan that was published in Pak Newspapers.
      If Pak Army had been honest and had really sided with USA to avoid getting bombed to Stone Age by USA, it would not have re-organized Taliban through one of its Colonel, would not have accommodated them by building new Camps for them, would not have re-armed them, would not have started paying them salaries and would not have started infiltrating them back in to Afghanistan by the end of 2002, would not have sheltered Osama, would not have created Haqqani Group etc, would not have ordered Taliban to start killing the PushToon Tribes that refused them as Overlords in Pak Tribal Areas and NWF Province; would not have told Taliban to cause all the terrorism in Pakistan to force Pakistanis to think, it was happening to them because USA was occupying Afghanistan.
      USA did not come to Pakistan to kill 35,000 Pakistanis. Taliban were told to kill Pakistanis to create a mayhem so, USA would permit overthrow of Zardari.

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