Will US Nuclear Politics Surrender Before Economics and Cyber Media?

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The South Asian Nuclear Dynamics

Jawad Raza Khan

At 0530, 16 July 1945, in a remote site of the Alamogordo Air Base, New Mexico, the first full-scale nuclear test was made. For the first time in history there was a nuclear explosion. And what an explosion! This is how General Leslie Groves describes the very first weapon of mass destruction in an official document of War Department Washington on 18 July 1945.

General Groves, who had a reputation as a great driving force for projects took over the responsibility of the famous Manhattan Project in September 1942 . He was involved in most aspects of the atomic bomb’s development. He directed the collection of military intelligence on the German nuclear energy project and helped in selecting targets in Japan. Although, Groves wrapped the Manhattan Project but failed to prevent the USSR from conducting a successful espionage program, resulted in stealing nuclear secrets from US nuclear sites.

Just after eighteen days of the mentioned letter on Aug 6, 1945 – First atomic bomb dropped, on Hiroshima, Japan. History openly indicates that US “The Peace Lover” couldn’t wait for the 20th day after harnessing the nuclear capability and killed nearly 0.25 million civilians in the “Name of Peace”. On the other hand, most of the Western historians are found linking the Nuclear bombing of Japan with the Japanese full scale daring action on American naval base in Hawaii “The Pearl Harbour” on December 7th 1941, but after nearly five years “strange isn’t it”. On one pretext or the other, all efforts are still on to persuade mitigating the use of WMD for ending the 2nd World War. Hundreds of analysis and documentaries are made to do or undo the horrific act of brutality carried out by the President Truman and party.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt, (January 30, 1882 – April 12, 1945), the predecessor of President Truman, also known by his initials, FDR, was the 32nd President of the United States (1933–1945). He was the only US president in the history of US who was elected thrice for the presidential term. Preposterously an unprecedented mourning was seen all across USSR after the death of Franklin Delano Roosevelt (April 12, 1945), as Roosevelt was believed to be a man who could have averted The Cold war, which took the toll of human beings in the next forty years after the end of WW-II. Russian dictator Stalin in his message to Truman conveyed “The American people and United Nations have lost a great politician of world significance and a pioneer in the organization of peace and security after the war”. The point under lined is after the war and this not quoted by none other than but Stalin and again it took just 3 months 24 days for Truman to bomb Japan after the death of Roosevelt that to “after the war”.  

The concept of One Government was in thin air, even before Aug 1945, the famous Yalta conference headed by Roosevelt was in pursuance to the said goal in consultation with the Allies; even the King of newly founded Saudi Arabia Abdul Aziz was also met and taken care off. Nuclearization of the planet added a catalyst to it and from then on it was planned and executed with more zeal and vigour by the world powers. The basics of the world order was designed on General Grove’s recommendation which suggested that “this weapon must be in control of US only, till the time others are not anxious about peace as we are”. Although by mid October 1945 it was believed in US administration that the nuclear secret has already been out of box and Russians are fast and furiously working on it. From here the story of proliferation took off and within 70 years this world has witnessed more than nine nations mastering or nearly mastering to make a dreadful bomb.

Crux of the above mentioned can be put up like this “US killed nearly 0.25 million people in Haroshima and Ngasaki by using nuclear bomb for peace and since then to ensure nobody else can make or use WMDs to disturb the world peace,  they have again killed more than 0.3 million people in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan”.

As a matter of fact, in past 70 years the socio-politico and especially nuclear- politico environment of the globe has drastically effected by the economic factor. On the other hand, the policy envisaged by US with regards to the nuclearization of the world in 1945 is still followed in true letter and spirit by Pentagon and White house. The tools are definitely changed but the plan and its execution for One Government is still on!

Another feature of the human race which is radically transformed is media and especially with the advent of cyber media the possibility of controlling the hearts and minds has turned to minimal. The combination of economic and cyber media has made the job of hiding facts a difficult preposition. Propagation of Occupy Wall Street protest and its live streaming through YouTube will bear the testimony of both the facts. Despite of the fact, that US authorities have been extremely successful in blacking out the event on print and electronic media, even than whole of the world knows that more than 36000 men and women are marching back and forth on “Brooklyn bridge” on 12 hourly shift basis.

The days are over when Super powers use to enforce their version of story without any impediment or challenge to be faced. Even in a country like Pakistan, now protests are launched through active use of Facebook and have the power and capability to silent at least the war of words. Something like this happened in Karachi when a protest against US treats to Pakistan was launched after the Mullen episode. The protestors carried out an aggressive and vocal protest in front of US embassy Karachi, which ultimately forced the diplomats to engage with Pakistani youth. Now we as Pakistani citizens are observing Mr. Cameron Munter very often dancing on Pakistani music and mixed up with the youth of Pakistan with an exclusive invitation to the students only “indeed with an agenda behind it”.

With all important factors like cyber media and economics in background let’s analyze Pakistan’s nuclear capability on the famous General Groves statement “Nuclear capability for peace”. Again thanks to cyber media which can make a voice noticeable without any major effort else than putting it forward in an organized manner. As far as the facts are concerned Pakistan’s nuclear program started in mid 70s but it shaped into strong nuclear tests carried out in May 1998, only in retaliation to the Indian hegemonic designs converting into sarcastic bombardment of statements by responsible Indian politicians, especially after conducting successful nuclear tests in Pokhran.  With immense pressure on Pakistan not to retaliate by US, it responded India in the same coin and the world found Pakistan surprisingly more sophisticated and technically classier in the field of controlled nuclear sciences. Here it would not be justice if something is not written about the factor of strong ideological base of Pakistan which took over the imperatives of economics and a hungry deprived Pakistani celebrated joyfully the nuclear tests of his country. It is indeed more laudable if he knows that a worst will come now in terms of individual and state economy.

Now the slogan of peace through nuclear power from west was proved emphatically on ground by a country like Pakistan. You need not to rephrase or tailor the history to put the point across as events after that have given a very strong but peaceful message to the world.

  • The concept of limited war was executed in the Kargil sector in 1999 only because south Asia was nuclear. Whole of the world was brought in as the two nuclear giants were having a face off for the disputed Kashmir. The escalation was not carried out thoughtfully on any other part of the Indo-Pak border and the conflict ended in peace.
  • Terrorist attack on Indian parliament led to another eyeball to eyeball confrontation and both the countries amass their troops for more than two years. Again the Genie remained in the bottle and the world saw millions of troops marching back to their barracks without a bullet fired.
  • General Kayani’s statement was indeed a strong message to US administration in the backdrop of Mullen statement when he said that US must not consider Pakistan as Iraq and Afghanistan, we are a nuclear power. The said statement again make the world mindful that any tempering with the borders of Pakistan will lead to a full scale war which cannot be restricted to conventional means and the peace prevailed between US and Pakistan.
  • The only option for the world to avert the water war between India and Pakistan is to assist Pakistan in nuclear energy sector for which the basics are very much available with foolproof security measures. The energy crisis in Pakistan with the explosion of water bomb can be easily averted if the world is serious about the peace in this volatile region. The nuclear capability already attained by Pakistan can here also ensure peace.

With an exceptionally operative command and control system of Pakistan’s nuclear possessions with no history of a single nuclear incident, the world led by US and NATO must understand the importance of nuclear balance of power in this part of the globe. Giving dreadful and misleading statements for Pakistan’s nuclear installations will indeed be of no use, it’s time for US to concentrate on graceful exit from Afghanistan than beating about the nuclear bush. The underlines of US nuclear politics now has to be reassessed in the light of own economy and irrepressible properties of cyber media. The world must also understand that the Pakistanis wants to live in peace but with dignity and honour and their voice cannot be ignored as they are not less than 180 million in number. Pakistanis are indeed not ignorant of the importance of Pakistan’s nuclear arsenals, which are now a guarantee not only to the regional but world peace, comprehensively in line with General Leslie Grove’s perception of US nuclear arsenals for Peace.

Jawad Khan is a political analyst based in Rawalpindi.

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  • Mansoor Mubeen  On November 20, 2011 at 10:53 am

    the respectable writer has given the figure of people killed by united states, in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan to be 0.3 million, i think in Iraq alone they have killed more than 0.6 million.

    • S U Turkman  On November 20, 2011 at 5:39 pm

      Yeah and 3.5 million of our Daughters and Wives we kill every year around the world but we have to talk about 0.3 million. We have killed 11 million of our own Moslims in wars with each other, Military Operations in our countries, Ethnic Cleansing etc in last half century but we have to talk about only how many has USA killed because Allah permits us to kill our own people only. USA has not such rights. We have all the rights to kill US Soldiers in Afghanistan.

  • a m malik  On November 20, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    ” The world must also understand that the Pakistanis wants to live in peace but with dignity and honour ”
    While the writer has spelled out in his article what most Pakistanis feel, it is about the sentence above that will make the elections win and for the present shameless ,thick skinned rulers to lose. Their vision is not even beyond their noses and are pygmies infront of the so called dictators like Ayub Khan and Gen Zia.

    • S U Turkman  On November 20, 2011 at 5:48 pm

      That’s right Malik,
      And ‘dignity’ means surrender of the Enemy while ‘peace’ means, peace in Graveyard.
      Nobody has a vision believing that Pakistan was ‘Ghar daamaaD’ of USA so, USA would be attacking India because he attacked India. Nobody has a vision that USA would keep tolerating Military Dictatorship while keep giving Charity of Aid.

    • dilazak1Abdul Qadir Khan  On November 21, 2011 at 3:50 am

      And What the F…. US soldiers are doing in Afghanistan??????

      • a m malik  On November 21, 2011 at 5:11 am

        Sir u are not aware of this Gamashta. He i.e turkey man spins yarns and keeps bad mouthing Army Pakistan an of course his pet – Punjab. Hr now has started to poise as a Punjabi so that his wise analysis of anti punjabi should bear some creditability.
        He is a liar and and a munafiq

      • dilazak1Abdul Qadir Khan  On November 21, 2011 at 5:59 am

        Thanks Bro, I know this SOB. I was just taking maza with this ….

  • khan saheb  On November 20, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    Good piece!

    The only question is whether the PK leadership would be willing to work on these lines.
    What is evident is that Pakistanis do not want to live in peace and dignity and honour have either lost their meaning or are being redefined, just as Islam is. Ironically, PK’s survival lies in using the nuclear card to continue to get more aid. Peace will not get any cash. Turmoil, extremism, terrorism will fetch the charcoal it needs to keep the lights on. Without nuclear capability, we could have been living at least as peacefully as Bangladesh, if not other Islamic countries. I compare with BD only because it was part of PK, not too long ago. Do you think PK would even be on the back page of the newspaper (let alone the headlines) or the US shadow be in its backyard, if it had no nuke capability?

    The tone from the top is don’t ask, don’t tell. From the top to the guy sweeping th roads, most have lost the sense of values. Now the young tarang look at the angry middle-aged man Imran Khan to pull the country out from the hole. Poor Imran does not even have a #2 to show let alone a functional political party. The I, ME and MYSELF cannot take him very far. He is under-estimating the opposition.

    Bottom line: The US are not going anywhere and will continue to have presence in the region. Its not about Afghanistan, Pakistan, Jahilistan or Qabristan. Its Nukistan! That also means that the state of failure will continue until PK becomes an accepted failed state. After all Somalia and Congo exist on the world map too.

    • S U Turkman  On November 20, 2011 at 6:02 pm

      Khan Saheb,
      Pakistan Army has been blackmailing the world with Nukes. The idea was to force the world to do for it what it wants for peace in south Asia. It meant, India put her Kashmir on the plate and gift it to Pakistan and USA put Afghanistan on a plate and hand it over to its Protege the Taliban while it keeps training new recruits arriving from all over the world in its Sneak Attack Training Camps.
      Well, China Card turned out to be fake and India has proven twice it does not care how many Nukes Pakistan has gotten so, “merTaa kiyaa naa kerTaa”, MFN Trade Partner Status immediately for our Birth Enemy, India to save its Ass from total annihilation by India because this time, USA may not come to help and China would not do anything again just like in 1971.

      Pak Army had thought, it could live off blackmail and threat of Nukes and Sneak Attack Terrorism forever but I guess, Allah rejected that policy so, our gods had to change their policy also but it could be just a temporary gesture to survive in present situation.
      Allaho Akbar …!
      Wisdom of our Patriotic Army ZinDaabaaD …!

      • dilazak1Abdul Qadir Khan  On November 21, 2011 at 3:57 am

        Ha Ha Ha,,, I can clearly feel your a… burning……..I can smell it.
        By the way, Pakistan Army has not been discussed at all in this article. Why have you brought it in???? It would be fair enough if you could discuss your country USA viz-a-viz her Policies with regards to nukes.

  • S U Turkman  On November 21, 2011 at 5:58 am

    What the hell Taliban are doing in Afghanistan?
    Is it their country?
    Don’t poor Afghans have a right to have an independent country?
    US Soldiers would not be in Afghanistan if Pakistan stops infiltrating Taliban in to Afghanistan to kill Afghans and Foreign Soldiers once in a while. Why are your Taliban killing 20 Pakistanis and Afghans before they succeed killing one Foreign Soldier or Foreign Civilian Worker in Afghanistan?

    • dilazak1Abdul Qadir Khan  On November 21, 2011 at 7:36 am

      And what the hell British Criminal\s Generation is doing in USA. They are not Aboriginals but Red Indians are. Where are those Red Indians now? Criminal siblings have taken over USA. By the way Taliban are Afghans and it is their country. They are aboriginals. They have full right to live in their lands as they prefer to according to their culture and religion. USA should just F… Off or their A..s wil be beaten up…God Willing…

      • S U Turkman  On November 21, 2011 at 4:58 pm

        Is this what we were discussing in this thread?
        KHAN wrote: “And what the hell British Criminal\s Generation is doing in USA”
        TURKMAN: People of British Descent are not a majority in USA. What are Arabs doing in N Africa? What are Moslims doing in India and other parts of the world?

        KHAN wrote: “They are not Aboriginals but Red Indians are”
        TURKMAN: That’s right. Moslims are not Aboriginal in most of the world.
        KHAN wrote: “By the way Taliban are Afghans and it is their country. They are aboriginals. They have full right to live in their lands as they prefer to according to their culture and religion”.
        TURKMAN: Why then Afghans call them ‘Kharjian’ or Foreigners? Country of PushToons of Pakistan is PakhToon Khwah, not Afghanistan. Afghans have every right to live free and independent of Slaves of Pakistan, the Pakistani PushToons called Taliban. Afghans have been shouting out loud at them, “Death to Enemies of Afghans and Afghanistan …!”

      • dilazak1Abdul Qadir Khan  On November 22, 2011 at 4:32 am

        Since you participate on this blog and me too so I would not indulge in further unnecessary discussions. Reason? As I can see and am sure others too that your discussions carry no depth and are usually shallow. A quotation says (By Sheikh Saadi RA) that
        “It’s better to have a wise enemy than an idiot friend”
        That should probably suffice……Bye

    • a m malik  On November 21, 2011 at 10:15 am

      Why the ratio of 20:1 because we are labour intensive. U seem to know all secrets. Tell me are u the one directing the war operations?

      • Summaya  On November 21, 2011 at 5:42 pm

        I LOVE the name TURKEY you have given to this rat.Cheers!

  • Hamid Qazi  On November 21, 2011 at 7:23 am

    No Mr. Turkman, Afghanistan is your country. Why should it belong to the Talibans. BTW who were ruling Afghanistan before the Americans attacked them?

    • S U Turkman  On November 21, 2011 at 5:37 pm

      Pakistanis called Taliban and Pak Military disguised as Taliban were ruling Afghanistan on Barrel of Gun after killing half a million Afghans since 1996. Afghans called them ‘Khaarjiyaan’ or Foreigners. Afghans are happy that USA beat the shit out of their Pakistani Enemies from country that has been birth Enemy of Pakistan. That has been occupying half of Afghanistan and calls it NWF Province.
      Afghan Per Capita Income has risen from $ 150 to $ 960. USA is spending $ 11 billion a year building Schools, Hospitals, Roads, Highways, Electricity Generating Power Houses etc that were destroyed by your MojaahiDeen in 1980’s, Pak Agent HekmaTyar in 1990’s, Taliban and Pak Military from 1996 to 2001.
      Can an Afghan ask, if Pakistanis are really friend of Afghans, why had not they started rebuilding Afghanistan after they had consolidated power in Afghanistan in 1997?
      Death to Enemy of Moslims, the Pak Army that has killed more of them than any Non Moslim Army of the world since 1948 …!
      Death to Enemies of Afghans and Afghanistan …!

  • Nadeem  On November 21, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    I agree with Mr. Khan that nuclear Pakistan has, is and will ensure peace for Pakistan from external threats. Imagine what the U.S./India would have done to us if we were not a nuclear state???

    Nadeem Kausar

    • S U Turkman  On November 21, 2011 at 5:27 pm

      Yes Nadeem,
      They would have done the same that they have done to Bangladesh because she was not a Nuclear State and had only 250,000 Armed Forces. Look, Bangladesh does not exist anymore …!

  • Jameel Zaidi  On November 21, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    History of nuclear armament has been elaborately discussed in this
    article, highlighting the futile role US played by exploiting this
    technique against humanity in general. Needless to mention , that US
    has failed to learn from its follies in the past, destroying milliions
    of human lives in first stage Nam & Korea in the first stage, and
    Iraq and Afghanistan in the second. Beside the notorious US policy of
    ‘do more’ is creating hatred against US & it is fast losing its allies
    in the past.

    Whereas it has failed to learn from it’s blunders in the past, it is
    repeating its blunders in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.US is failing
    to realise that it’s economy is also showing a downward trend and it
    has become a country where unemployment is touching high water mark.
    Unless this policy is changed, US is not likely to remain amongst
    first five of the World. Crux of the problem remains that US is being
    ruled by pygmies; whereas it was governed by giants in the past.

    Jameel Zaidi

    • S U Turkman  On November 21, 2011 at 5:25 pm

      Needless to mention , that Pakistan Military has failed to learn from its follies in the past, destroying millions of human lives of Pakistanis since its start in East and West Pakistan plus in Afghanistan. The nefarious Expansionist and Divide & Rule Doctrine policy of Pak Military has created hatred against Punjabis from Afghanistan to Bangladesh and it is fast losing its allies even like China.
      Thankless Morons, the Pakis, who have lived off Charity of US Aid since 1953 and Loans since 1955 hate USA despite that USA had started their Air Force and Navy from scratch and Army from the level, when they had only 16 Tanks.
      Lying is our Habit, Corruption is our Culture, Hate is our Religion and Begging is our Profession …!
      Pakistan ZinDaabaaD …!

  • Admiral Sirohey  On November 21, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    A good historical perspective of Nuclear weapon development with tangential reference to spying operation of technology from Germany. The fact that this weapon was used about three months after it had been tested reflects the mind set for revenge of Pearl Harbour. Subsequent American effort and desire to be the only power to possess this awesome power has failed. Notwithstanding this wish this technology will be harnessed by many a nation in not too distant a future. While the prospects are horrifying however sense of insecurity will make it inevitable. The existence of this weapon kept the cold war reasonably cold.

    Pakistan would not have gone nuclear but for the threat from next door. As numerical parity can not be maintained with the adversary the policy of deterrence became inevitable. To ensure this deterrence we bore all the pressures, threats of all sorts and sanctions of the extreme kind when we faced threat of war in 1990.

    Alhadulillah that Allah swt gave us the knowledge and courage to acquire and keep it ready for use. We accepted no compromise on this issue. Efforts were made internally but waver we did not.


    • S U Turkman  On November 21, 2011 at 6:41 pm

      Oh yes, yes Admiral Atomic Bomb was not build to deter India from stop us from killing our Pakistanis like Balochis, Mohajirs, Sindhis PushToons etc in the name of Security of Pakistan just like we had killed East Pakistanis because they had won Elections. It was built because Pakistan could clearly see, India had invaded, occupied and enslaved East Pakistan just like we had occupied Afghanistan and enslaved Afghans through our beloved Taliban and our Soldiers disguised as Taliban. .
      We really needed Nuclear Weapons because we had seen all the countries around India from Maldives to Bhutan and Nepal to Indonesia that did not have Atomic Bomb who were invaded, occupied and enslaved by India.

      • a m malik  On November 23, 2011 at 2:58 am

        Why have u stopped poising as a Punjabi? So India made the atomic Bomb so that she could kill Kashmiris, dalits, christians – and muslims in Gujrat, burn down churches rape the nuns, burn a whole lot of village of 5000 who had turned to Islam, demolish the Babri masjid, take away all the machinery of BD after 1971 war, and to stop the maoists who want to be freed from the subjugation of India in all the thirteen states, so that she can kill the entire heirarchy of Nepal to install their goon – and for that matter ur beloved adopted country does not see any follies with their numerous neighbours , dictators and userpers gangsters – ruling the various south American countries but their stomache gets bubbled up to right muslim countries especially those with oil and minerals – of which Afghanistan also is believed to have plenty. U need to be rubbished for ur insinuations w.r.t Pakistan and Afghanistan. All what we did to look after Afgahanistan has been blown off without any appreciation only to hear people like u with a smear compaign.
        By the way What Admiral Sirohey has said should sink in you who keeps groaning like a granny all the times about the punjabi army – and if I see the list – Navy has had a number of non punjabis as their Chief and possibly that includes the Admiral – and competent one’s at that. .

  • S U Turkman  On November 21, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    SUMMAYA wrote: “I LOVE the name TURKEY you have given to this rat.Cheers!”
    TURKMAN: It tells, Summaya does not know even Basic Social Culture of Islam and what Allah had said about what he/she is doing just like Malik and millions of Moslims around the world. Read words of Allah in Qoraan below illiterates …!

    Sura 49 – Al-Hujraat (MADINA) : Verse 11
    O ye who believe! let not some men among you laugh at others: it may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): nor let some women laugh at others: it may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (Indeed) doing wrong.
    Translation : Eng-Yusuf Ali
    No wonder, Moslims are where they are in this world. Wullahool Azim …!

    • Summaya  On November 21, 2011 at 7:04 pm

      O Ye Hindu:Go jump!

  • Willy  On November 21, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    It seems to me, YAA, that anyone who really wanted
    peace (as opposed to total world domination) would
    want Iran to have the bomb. If they had it today, the
    Israelis would not be pushing for war with them,
    would they!

    • S U Turkman  On November 22, 2011 at 3:14 am

      This is a news to me that ‘Israel has been pushing for war’ with Iran and Ahmedi NijaaD has never threatened to blow up Israel in his past speeches.
      If Allah had wanted all Non Moslims dead, believe me, they would not be where they are and they would have invented first Atomic Bomb also. Complain to Allah, why are 90% of population of Moslims is living off Charity of others and not ruling this Planet instead of looking at your own character …!.
      Allah is all wise, all knowing, not naa oozo billah stupid like you people, Moslims …!
      He does, what He thinks is right because He is just and Creator of all. Wullahool Azim …!

      • dilazak1Abdul Qadir Khan  On November 22, 2011 at 4:48 am

        We collectively have come to the conclusion that bloggers of this blog will pay you double amount of what you are getting from Uncle SAM and Bollywood. More so whatever bullshit you receive from us here in this blog. I am always quite relaxed after taking your class. Thanx

  • S U Turkman  On November 22, 2011 at 5:44 am

    It pains me to learn that my Moslim Brothers believe Money, their lies and false perception those lies create are everything, not Allah, truth and facts. No wonder, we characterless people are, where we are. May Allah cure us from such diseases …!

    • Unknown  On November 23, 2011 at 12:43 am

      O Ye Hindu Turkey screaming from the pit of RAW Agency: Muslins are not your brothers.
      Go to yourGayae Mata & drink her urine!

  • S U Turkman  On November 22, 2011 at 5:52 am

    Qadir Khan wrote:
    ““It’s better to have a wise enemy than an idiot friend”
    That should probably suffice……Bye”.
    TURKMAN: I have heard these kind of excuses from all, who were defeated by facts that I produced plus my reason and logic so, this is nothing new to read from a defeated person, who I have left speechless with the Brain that Allah gave me. Bye, may Allah help you understand things better, Kid …!
    Seek only His help …!

    • a m malik  On November 23, 2011 at 2:31 am

      You have written that:
      “Brain that Allah gave me” That is a news to me. Nevertheless, except for us I do not find that All Muslim countries are living off the charity – 1.5 Bn claimed but given almost one fifth(actually “filth”) which must have straight away gone in the pockets of ur admired politicians. But It is Ur adopted country which lives off the charity forced on to the muslim countries through their oil – nay it is “Bhatta” taken by ur great country.
      The problem with u is that u twist facts to suit yourself – not that u win ur argument by any logic.
      Believe me we have been complaining to Allah – as u stated – but then we got the message which meant that so long ur nation keeps producing bigots like turkey u will continue to suffer.
      Now my complain is that why did he give us namak harams as your good self sir?
      By the way my email address got hacked about 9 hours earlier. Luckily one of the wizards helped me out. This is the second time it happened. Is it your specialty sir – to indulge in such adventures?

  • S U Turkman  On November 23, 2011 at 3:52 am

    1. There is no poor country in the world that has never received US Aid
    2. There are no Poor Moslim Countries that have not received Loans from USA or US Money through IMF.
    3. Money Poor Countries owe to IMF keeps increasing, not because of 9.5 to 2.5% interest but because they keep taking out more Loans instead of paying them back.
    4. Even the most Foreign Exchange rich Saudi Arabia still owes money to IMF forget about less Oil Rich countries.
    5. Out of even Oil Rich Moslim countries only Iran does not owe any money to IMF.
    6. Only less than 15% of Oil Need of USA is fulfilled by any Arab Country and US Government is not in business of importing Oil.
    7. US Oil Companies import Oil and no country gifts them her Oil for free.
    8. There has been no proof in IMF Pak Account that any promised or announced US Money Aid to Pakistan has not been credited since 1953.
    9. IMF does not keep an account of Military, Food, Medicine or other Humanitarian Aid granted to any country by any of the rich countries of the world. .

    (Ref.: 1. IMF, 2. World Bank, 3. WTO)

  • S U Turkman  On November 23, 2011 at 4:14 am

    Malik wrote:
    “So India made the atomic Bomb so that she could kill Kashmiris, dalits, christians – and muslims in Gujrat, burn down churches rape the nuns, …”
    TURKMAN: No. India build Atomic Bomb so, crazy Pakistan would stop thinking of winning a war against her but copy cat Pakistan built Atomic Bombs only to make sure that India would not cause 1971 again, when other minorities are slaughtered by her.
    Malik wrote:
    ” … ruling the various south American countries but their stomache gets bubbled up to right muslim countries especially those with oil and minerals – of which Afghanistan also is believed to have plenty”.
    TURKMAN: If USA is ruling S. American countries, please let them know, because they do not know your this great research and if Afghanistan has plenty of Oil, my some distant cousins in Afghanistan have a lot of Oil Wells to sell you very cheap. Let me know, if you want to buy them …!
    Malik wrote:
    “All what we did to look after Afgahanistan has been blown off without any appreciation only to hear people like u with a smear compaign”.
    TURKMAN: Besides shifting Pak Heroin Manufacturing factories to Afghanistan, please let us know, what Pakistan had done for Afghans in Afghanistan because when Americans landed there, it was a country in Stone Age that did not even have Electricity for more than a decade. Please let us know, what was left there for Northern Alliance and USA to destroy?
    Malik wrote:
    “and if I see the list – Navy has had a number of non punjabis as their Chief and possibly that includes the Admiral – and competent one’s at that. .”
    TURKMAN: If there is no discrimination against Non Punjabis in any of Armed Forces, Rangers, FC,,Police, FIA, IA, etc, why you don’t tell your bosses in ISI to print the list of Non Punjabi Employees from level of Peons to Generals?
    Who the hell are you trying to fool here, my lord?

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