And We Actually Pay These Guys?: ‘Intelligence’ Chief Warns of Threat of Iran Attacks Inside US

Dave Lindorff


Let’s see now. James Clapper, the director of national intelligence who oversees both the FBI and the CIA, is warning that Iran’s leaders have “changed their calculus” and, as the Wall Street Journal puts it, “now appear willing to conduct an attack within the US.”

Speaking at a Join Intelligence Committee hearing in Congress, the aptly-named Clapper said that Iranian leaders, “probably including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei” are “now more willing to conduct an attack in the United States as a response to real or perceived actions that threaten the regime.”

Well gee, that sure should come as a shocker.

Officials in the US, from the President on down to the clowns in Congress and campaigning for president , are all (with the notable exception of Rep. Ron Paul), insisting that “nothing is off the table” in confronting what they all keep insisting, with no hard evidence, is Iran’s alleged “program” to produce a nuclear weapon. We know, from reports by journalists like Seymour Hersh and others, that the US is already sponsoring and helping to orchestrate sabotage and terror attacks within Iran. The country’s top nuclear scientists are being killed by sappers on motorbikes, almost certainly working for Mossad, the spy service of America’s client state Israel. Several US aircraft carriers loaded with bombs, bomber aircraft and rack upon rack of cruise missiles, are stationed threateningly off the Iranian coast. And the US is working on boosting the power of its already huge 30,000-lb. conventional bombs which are specifically designed to destroy Iran’s deeply buried nuclear fuel development facilities. The US is also running regular spy flights by stealth plans and drone aircraft (one of which was captured intact recently by the Iranians), over Iran to develop targeting information.

If you were the Iranian government, facing all those threats and actual acts of war against you coming from the country with the most powerful military in the world, you would be completely idiotic and derelict in your duty if you did not start developing a plan to retaliate against a looming attack.

Do we really have to pay Clapper the big bucks to come up with this kind of “intelligence”?

Americans ought to understand: If we are going to be an aggressor nation, and are going to sponsor acts of terror abroad against nations that have not attacked us or our allies, we need to expect, or at least be prepared to face attacks on our own country. Ask yourself, what would you do if you were in the Iranian government? What would you support your government doing if you were an Iranian citizen?

And given that the nations we are attacking, including Iran, have no capability militarily to challenge our weaponry, or to use the same types of forces to attack us, they are going to use other means to hit us where it hurts if it comes to that. It’s called asymetrical warfare.

Iran recently captured intact a US spy drone that was allegedly picking targets for a possible US attack on Iran


By the way, the Iranians would be completely within their rights under the laws of war, which include reciprocity as an exception to the outlawing of certain activities. If the US were to attack nuclear plants and research facilities in Iran, for example, Iran would be absolutely within its rights to attack nuke plants and research facilities in the US. If the US were to attack military bases in Iran, Iran could do the same in the US. If the US were to attack power plants and communications facilities in Iran, or university buildings, Iran would be within its rights to do the same to the US. And If the US were to attack Iran’s economic base by, for example, bombing oil port facilities, or pipelines, or refineries, Iran would be within its rights to respond similarly in the US, attacking key US economic targets. As for those assassinations of Iranian scientists, that too could lead to a reciprocal response in the US and Israel — nor would the Iranians be restricted to attacking only US nuclear scientists. Really any scientist is at risk.

We’re entering dangerous territory here, but that was obvious.

The Clapper-trap stuff about Iranians posing a threat of such actions is that it is being presented as though it’s the Iranians who are to blame. They are not. The Iranians, who have not initiated an aggressive war in a couple centuries, are not crazy, and would not launch attacks on US targets first. That would be committing national suicide. Rather, they are making it clear that they are ready to bring the war to the US in any way they can if they are attacked by the US, or perhaps if they feel that Israel is acting as an agent for the US in its attacks on their country.

This is a much more dangerous thing than the terrorism that has been the government’s favored bogeyman for the last decade since the 9-11 attacks. Iran is not a little band of terrorists. It is a country of 74 million people, many of them very smart and educated, with a long national history and a culture dating back as far as the Chinese and Indian cultures. If it commits itself to punishing the US, it has the resources and the trained personnel to enable it to inflict real damage here.

The US is playing with real fire in making plans for an attack on Iran, or in allowing Israel to attack Iran.

Putting aside for a moment the point that even US officials admit that an all-out attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities will not succeed in ending Iran’s nuclear program, and in fact would likely make it certain that that country would quickly move to develop its own nuclear weapons, or to buy them — weapons that could be smuggled into the US at some point later on.

If, as America’s leaders constantly profess, their number one goal is to “keep Americans safe,” the last thing they should be doing is thinking about starting a war against Iran.

We don’t need a tool like Clapper to tell us the Iranians are drawing up plans to attack targets in the U.S. That should be a given. A child could have figured that out.

What we need is someone with a modicum of intelligence to tell us and the war-crazed idiots running this mad government that we’ve had it with all the war-mongering.

Rep. Paul, the only sane and principled candidate for president in either of the two major political parties, has it right: the US needs to stop threatening Iran, needs to put Israel on a tight leash, and needs to slash the size of and pull back our global military to inside US borders.

Then there will be no Iranian threat to America.

It’s that simple.

CROSS POST FROM Writer’s Blog: thiscan’tbehappening

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  • pakpotpourri2  On February 2, 2012 at 5:37 am


    Dempsey Told Israelis U.S. Won’t Join Their War on Iran
    By Gareth Porter*

    General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    Credit:Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    WASHINGTON, Feb 1, 2012 (IPS) – Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey told Israeli leaders Jan. 20 that the United States would not participate in a war against Iran begun by Israel without prior agreement from Washington, according to accounts from well-placed senior military officers.

    Dempsey’s warning, conveyed to both Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak, represents the strongest move yet by President Barack Obama to deter an Israeli attack and ensure that the United States is not caught up in a regional conflagration with Iran.

    But the Israeli government remains defiant about maintaining its freedom of action to make war on Iran, and it is counting on the influence of right-wing extremist views in U.S. politics to bring pressure to bear on Obama to fall into line with a possible Israeli attack during the election campaign this fall.

    Obama still appears reluctant to break publicly and explicitly with Israel over its threat of military aggression against Iran, even in the absence of evidence Iran has decided to build a nuclear weapon.

    Dempsey’s trip was highly unusual, in that there was neither a press conference by the chairman nor any public statement by either side about the substance of his meetings with Israeli leaders. Even more remarkable, no leak about what he said to the Israelis has appeared in either U.S. or Israeli news media, indicating that both sides have regarded what Dempsey said as extremely sensitive.

    The substance of Dempsey’s warning to the Israelis has become known, however, to active and retired senior flag officers with connections to the JCS, according to a military source who got it from those officers.

    A spokesman for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Commander Patrick McNally, offered no comment Wednesday when IPS asked him about the above account of Dempsey’s warning to the Israelis.

    The message carried by Dempsey was the first explicit statement to the Netanyahu government that the United States would not defend Israel if it attacked Iran unilaterally. But Defence Secretary Leon Panetta had given a clear hint in an interview on “Face the Nation” Jan. 8 that the Obama administration would not help defend Israel in a war against Iran that Israel had initiated.

    Asked how the United States would react if Israel were to launch a unilateral attack on Iran, Panetta first emphasised the need for a coordinated policy toward Iran with Israel. But when host Bob Schieffer repeated the question, Panetta said, “If the Israelis made that decision, we would have to be prepared to protect our forces in that situation. And that’s what we’d be concerned about.”

    Defence Minister Barak had sought to dampen media speculation before Dempsey’s arrival that the chairman was coming to put pressure on Israel over its threat to attack Iran, but then proceeded to reiterate the Netanyahu-Barak position that they cannot give up their responsibility for the security of Israel “for anyone, including our American friends”.

    There has been no evidence since the Dempsey visit of any change in the Netanyahu government’s insistence on maintaining its freedom of action to attack Iran.

    Dempsey’s meetings with Netanyahu and Barak also failed to resolve the issue of the joint U.S.-Israeli military exercise geared to a missile attack, “Austere Challenge ’12”, which had been scheduled for April 2012 but had been postponed abruptly a few days before his arrival in Israel.

    More than two weeks after Dempsey’s meeting with Barak, the spokesman for the Pentagon, John Kirby, told IPS, “All I can say is that the exercise will be held later this year.” That indicated that there has been no major change in the status of U.S.-Israeli discussions of the issue since the postponement of the exercise was leaked Jan. 15.

    The postponement has been the subject of conflicting and unconvincing explanations from the Israeli side, suggesting disarray in the Netanyahu government over how to handle the issue.

    To add to the confusion, Israeli and U.S. statements left it unclear whether the decision had been unilateral or joint as well as the reasons for the decision.

    Panetta asserted in a news conference Jan. 18 that Barak himself had asked him to postpone the exercise.

    It now clear that both sides had an interest in postponing the exercise and very possibly letting it expire by failing to reach a decision on it.

    The Israelis appear to have two distinct reasons for putting the exercise off, which reflect differences between the interests of Netanyahu and his defence minister.

    Netanyahu’s primary interest in relation to the exercise was evidently to give the Republican candidate ammunition to fire at Obama during the fall campaign by insinuating that the postponement was decided at the behest of Obama to reduce tensions with Iran.

    Thus Mark Regev, Netanyahu’s spokesman, explained it as a “joint” decision with the United States, adding, “The thinking was it was not the right timing now to conduct such an exercise.”

    Barak, however, had an entirely different concern, which was related to the Israeli Defence Forces’ readiness to carry out an operation that would involve both attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities and minimising the Iranian retaliatory response.

    A former U.S. intelligence analyst who followed the Israeli military closely told IPS he strongly suspects that the IDF has pressed Barak to insist that the Israeli force be at the peak of readiness if and when they are asked to attack Iran.

    The analyst, who insisted on anonymity because of his continuing contacts with U.S. military and intelligence personnel, said the 2006 Lebanon War debacle continues to haunt the thinking of IDF leaders. In that war, it became clear that the IDF had not been ready to handle Hezbollah rocket attacks adequately, and the prestige of the Israeli military suffered a serious blow.

    The insistence of IDF leaders that they never go to war before being fully prepared is a primary consideration for Barak, according to the analyst. “Austere Challenge ’12” would inevitably involve a major consumption of military resources, he observes, which would reduce Israeli readiness for war in the short run.

    The concern about a major military exercise actually reducing the IDF’s readiness for war against Iran would explain why senior Israeli military officials were reported to have suggested that the reasons for the postponement were mostly “technical and logistical”.

    The Israeli military concern about expending scarce resources on the exercise would apply, of course, regardless of whether the exercise was planned for April or late 2012. That fact would help explain why the exercise has not been rescheduled, despite statements from the U.S. side that it will be.

    The U.S. military, however, has its own reasons for being unenthusiastic about the exercise. IPS has learned from a knowledgeable source that, well before the Obama administration began distancing itself from Israel’s Iran policy, U.S. Central Command chief James N. Mattis had expressed concern about the implications of an exercise so obviously based on a scenario involving Iranian retaliation for an Israeli attack.

    U.S. officials have been quoted as suspecting that the Israeli request for a postponement of the exercise indicated that Israel wanted to leave its options open for conducting a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities in the spring. But a postponement to the fall would not change that problem.

    For that reason, the former U.S. intelligence analyst told IPS he doubts that “Austere Challenge ’12” will ever be carried out.

    But the White House has an obvious political interest in using the military exercise to demonstrate that the Obama administration has increased military cooperation with Israel to an unprecedented level.

    The Defence Department wants the exercise to be held in October, according to the military source in touch with senior flag officers connected to the Joint Chiefs.

    *Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist specialising in U.S. national security policy. The paperback edition of his latest book, “Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam”, was published in 2006.

  • S U Turkman  On February 2, 2012 at 5:45 am

    The Writer asks, “Ask yourself, what would you do if you were in the Iranian government?”
    TURKMAN: I would resign telling the Government, its incompetent to let things reach that far. Iran has the largest or 2nd largest Natural Gas Reserves to generate Electricity from. Iran has plenty of Oil to create Electricity from. Iran is the last country on Earth that needs Nuclear Power Plants. Prime Minister threaten8ing to nuke Israel every other day and Mollaas claiming Nuclear Plants are needed just to produce Electricity is all lies. Are they Moslim? Then, why they lie? Why Nuclear Bombs are needed, when no smart nation on earth wants to use them unless to blackmail the whole Middle East. Is blackmailing Islam? Why Iran has to keep testing USA and keep bullshitting without any Shit in her Guts to face USA in a real war? Don’t Mollaas know, USA can turn whole Iran in to Dust within a half hour? When would Pakis, Iran and N. Korea would believe this? Do they want to see some experimental destruction of one of their cities to believe in this and understand, what capability of US Atomic ICBMs is? Once USA goes on that path, are they sure, she would not continue on and start nuking one Moslim City after another every time your Sneak Attack Terrorists blow something up in USA.

  • Naveed Tajammal  On February 2, 2012 at 7:02 am

    Bravo Turkman,you are outdoing ,P.J.Goebbels,and using” his” techniques , outdated,But ,nevertheless effective,to create doubts in our mindsets,But why
    Fret & Fume,if so sure ?????

    • S U Turkman  On February 2, 2012 at 4:57 pm

      Yeah I guess, telling you facts that you can verify yourself is lying because you hate facts and hate USA because you are like 7th Century Tribal Brain people.

  • Mohammad Chaudhry  On February 2, 2012 at 9:24 am

    All the conscientious-minded Americans in particular and peop[le across the world at large should be grateful to people like Lindoff,Clapper and Ron Paul who amidst this mad mad world are rare voices of sanity to view the ground realities through broader and clear perspective ,shorn of fog and haz of biases, prejudices and mental fixations. Thus they have concluded rational,logical and sensible line of action based on objective realities.

    • Munir  On February 2, 2012 at 9:24 am

      RAW Sir RAW!

    • S U Turkman  On February 2, 2012 at 4:35 pm

      That’s right Chaudhry. USA’s Army pullout of Iraq after Iraqis became able to run Iraq was crazy and now USS’s announcement of not remaining in combat in Afghanistan next year is crazy and they final pullout in 2014 is crazy. Only Ron Paul you and others sane. Tell me, why Allah let USA become a Super Power if USA is insane and you are not?
      Can even a Leaf fall off a Tree without Allah’s knowledge?
      And yes Munir. For sure I am a RAW Agent just like you would declare Allah a RAW Agent if He came down to earth in form of a Human and talked some sense like me.

      • a m malik  On February 3, 2012 at 8:12 am

        Turkey fellow
        u said that Iran is lying – are they Moslims? But are u not a muslim as well? even though on the pay roll of the US agencies? The why are u so fond of lying and twisting the matter? I accept that US has the wherewithall to reduce Iran in a rubble – but then what is the extent of pain either is able to sustain? I hope you get it! As for Pakistanis over the years have developed the threshhold of that Pain. Hundred cities vs one in Israel – or US – would that be worth the effort? If we can bear the pain of having you in this forum sure we can sustain more of the other pains!

  • S U Turkman  On February 3, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    If you have any Evidence that I work for any Secret Agencies, please bring forth. Anybody can google and find out if I am lying or not. I have criticized …
    * …US Bombing of Qaddafi Government and efforts to bomb Syrian Army .
    *… USA’s encouraging statements against anarchists of Arab Spring.
    * …USA’s double standard about Arab Spring i.e. support of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Morocco, Bahrain, Yemen but opposition of rest of the Arab Countries fighting against Anarchists.
    * …US Attack on Iraq before it had started.
    * …US Inaction against 30 years old Ethnic Cleansing in Sudan.
    * … US backing of Georgia against Russian Speaking Provinces with a huge population of Moslims, who were backed by Russia.
    * … US Deployment in Afghanistan because better solution is to bomb the shit out of Mother of Taliban, the Pak Military if Taliban and Pak Military try to take it over Afghanistan again after US pull out. .
    * .. some of US Domestic and Economic Policies also on other Forums.
    Now tell me, when have you criticized your loving Pak Military or your Punjabi Brothers on anything, Malik …!

    • a m malik  On February 4, 2012 at 9:11 am

      U ask for evidence for ur working for the US agencies. Firstly, I do not also have the evidence that you are not working for any of these. Secondly, I never read any of your comments – never – critisizing any thing US. Ur production of some may again be a cut and paste method. In so far criticizing the Pak Army or the Punjabis – I do not want to out do your efforts of doing the same and have – as such- left the field for you

      • S U Turkman  On February 4, 2012 at 8:11 pm

        Thanks for letting me know, I am a US Agent because you have not read, what Anti USA stuff I have written. I had no idea, whatever I wrote about Pakistan become void as soon as you declare me a US Agent. Now finally people can learn, what kind of illogical man you are.

  • a m malik  On February 5, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Thanks for letting all of us know that only u r logical and the rest all illogical.
    It is like a cross eyed who can never drive straight.

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